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Re: ICYMI: FBI looking into LA fiber cuts, Super Bowl


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:01:05 -0800

Unmanned aircraft systems are subject to the same Temporary Flight Restrictions(TFR) as manned aircraft.

While the TFRs for Superbowl 50 are not yet published, you can be assured that the FAA will issue some
and likely several.

Most likely everything below at least 10,000 feet for at least a 5 nautical mile radius of the stadium
will be closed to all but the following:
        1.      Flight operations in support of the superbowl authorized by superbowl management
        2.      Scheduled Air Carriers
        3.      Military
        4.      Law Enforcement
        5.      Medical/Emergency Services
        6.      Possibly certain other flights authorized by ATC and on a discrete transponder code.

It’s not unlikely that this will go to 18,000 instead of just 10,000 and also not unlikely that this could
extend to 10 or even 15 nautical miles.

Personally, I’m planning to drive out of the area on the 5th and not return until the 11th or maybe even
the 12th to avoid the whole mess. I want nothing to do with the first Superbowl in the worst possible
place to put a stadium in the bay area.

Whatever idiot(s) thought putting a major stadium at the confluence of the most congested freeways
in the bay area was a good idea should be flayed.

The only good thing I can say about the stadium is that unlike the San Jose Arena, I am not being
forced to subsidize Levi’s advertising through taxes to the best of my knowledge.

I expect the traffic on the ground to be a nightmare and everything related to aviation in the area
to be even worse. There will likely be limited landing and parking reservation slots allocated at all
surrounding airports (SJC, HWD, RHV, E16, PAO, and possibly even SQL, SFO, OAK, CVH, SNS).

According to preliminary data, the Superbowl will affect operations at APC, CCR, CVH, HWD, LVK, MRY,
OAK, PAO, RHV, SCK, SFO, SNS, SQL, STS, and WVI. (Not sure why E16 didn’t make the list, but I guarantee
you it will be affected).

“Special security provisions” whatever that means will be implmented in the San Jose and San Francisco areas
three to five days prior to the Super Bowl.

More information can be found here:

http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2016/January/05/Super-Bowl-50-flight-advisory-coming 
<http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2016/January/05/Super-Bowl-50-flight-advisory-coming>

Owen
Commercial Pilot, Airplane Single Engine Land, Instrument Airplane
Drone enthusiast
AOPA Member

On Jan 20, 2016, at 08:25 , Naslund, Steve <SNaslund () medline com> wrote:

Helicopters near the Super Bowl are cleared to be there and are flown by vetted professional pilots.  A human pilot 
in a helicopter presumably has some kind of qualification to be there while a drone (although I don't like that word) 
could be flown by any moron with a couple hundred bucks.  I also think the government is going completely overboard 
with the "drone threat" but in the case of the Super Bowl, there should definitely be a reasonable restriction on 
drone flights, ANY flight for that matter.  I think reasonable drone pilots would agree with that.

Steven Naslund
Chicago IL


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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:46 AM
To: Rafael Possamai
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: ICYMI: FBI looking into LA fiber cuts, Super Bowl

On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 15:41:31 -0600, Rafael Possamai said:
I fail to see how drones relate to fiber cuts and the superbowl. Did 
the article author just throw that in there? The news helicopter 
getting aerial footage also poses a risk, so not sure what's special about drones.

Drones don't cost $200 per hour to keep in the air, and they're not as obvious as a helicopter.  So it becomes a lot 
easier to get in there and grab some unauthorized video....


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