Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

The cost to the provider is irrelevant to the consumer. Cost to the consumer is all the consumer should be concerned 
with. Competition, industry and media would serve as the barometer to sensible or ridiculous pricing. 

There are a myriad of ways to measure usage. I'm not sure there are any certifications for any other billing relating 
to the Internet, so why start now? 




(My ISP doesn't charge for usage and I don't intend to until the industry makes that shift. I'm just debating this 
side.) 




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Mike Hammett 
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Robert Webb" <rwebb () ropeguru com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net> 
Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 10:37:23 AM 
Subject: Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan. 

The normal consumer has no way to correlate what the "real" cost is as the 
providers keep their "costs" for bandwidth, transit, etc. proprietary 
secrets and always lie to the consumer and muddy the picture of what the ISP 
actually pays for regarding bits! 

Additionally, until there can be proper tools that are "certified" for 
measuring usage, then usage based billing will never be viable. 

Robert Webb 

On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 10:11:29 -0600 (CST) 
Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote: 
> My point on usage based billing isn't meant to stifle anything, but 
> to provide equitable service to everyone at a fair price. $10/gig 
> certainly isn't a fair price for almost any network. People pay 
> variable rates for water, electricity, gas, food, etc., etc. 
>
> Is it necessarily a bad thing if people stop to think about what 
> their usage costs? 
>
>
> ----- 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com