Re: GPON vs. GEPON

[Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>]

True. I know a number of average users that also do what I am doing, however.

Owen

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 11:42 , Josh Reynolds <josh () kyneticwifi com> wrote:
>
> You are not the average user.
>
> On Jan 8, 2016 1:39 PM, "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com <mailto:owen () delong com>> wrote:
> Only if the 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz networks are on the same SSID.
>
> I don’t do that… I maintain separate 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz SSIDs. This allows me to know
> which one I am on and force when desirable (usually forcing 5Ghz is desirable).
>
> Owen
>
> > On Jan 8, 2016, at 11:03 , Josh Reynolds <josh () kyneticwifi com <mailto:josh () kyneticwifi com>> wrote:
> >
> > Customer devices will see the higher signal on the 2.4GHz AP and simply connect to that, especially as they roam 
> > through the house. Most don't pay attention to SNR at all.
> >
> > On Jan 8, 2016 12:53 PM, "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net <mailto:nanog () ics-il net>> wrote:
> > I think that was Josh's point, that 5 GHz will likely deliver better RF performance than 2.4 (despite physics) due 
> > to the amount of interference in 2.4.
> >
> >
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> > From: "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com <mailto:owen () delong com>>
> > To: "Josh Reynolds" <josh () kyneticwifi com <mailto:josh () kyneticwifi com>>
> > Cc: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org <mailto:nanog () nanog org>>, nanog-isp () mail com <mailto:nanog-isp () mail com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 12:46:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: GPON vs. GEPON
> >
> > > Count in oversubscription rates for residential, and consider that most
> > > people, despite what they say or think, will end up on 2.4GHz wireless in
> > > the home due to 5GHz sucking more than a room away - that ends up being a
> > > very scalable solution for residential service.
> >
> > Um… 5GHz works a lot better from one end of my house to the other than 2.4Ghz
> > due (in large part) to this fact… Almost every one of my neighbors is using
> > various 2.4GHz devices including about 45 external SSIDs visible from the
> > center of my house using the on-board antenna of an ESP8266 board from Adafruit.
> >
> > The noise floor and congestion on 2.4GHz in many urban settings, especially here
> > in Silicon Valley makes 5Ghz a much better option in any home where people are
> > smart enough to pay attention to the difference.
> >
> > OTOH, since the WiFi consortium took away the ability for consumers to easily
> > differentiate (it’s all “n” or “ac” now regardless of frequency) and you have
> > to really read the fine print on the side of the box to find a 5Ghz capable
> > WAP at your local big box store, most consumers end up on 2.4Ghz because those
> > are the least expensive routers on the shelf.
> >
> > Personally, I don’t mind this, but I think the 2.4Ghz prevalence has more to do
> > with consumers not knowing what they are buying than it does with performance.
> >
> > Owen