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Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase
From: Harlan Stenn <stenn () nwtime org>
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:05:58 -0800
On 12/22/16 4:11 PM, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote:
On Dec 20, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Harlan Stenn <stenn () nwtime org> wrote:On 12/20/16 7:27 PM, Laurent Dumont wrote: To be honest, the fact that NTP is still something managed by volunteers and not a regulated entity (a bit like DNS) is mind boggling.Time *is* managed by regulated entities - the National Time Labs.That was pretty clearly not what Laurent was talking about.
Not all that clearly, at least to me.
And Network Time Foundation's NTP Project (the reference implementation for NTP) could do lots more if we had a useful budget. Folks pay money for DNS registrations. There's no revenue stream around "time". Help us get enough support to NTF, and we'll have the staff and infrastructure to do more for folks.What does the NTF have to do with the NTP Pool (or the “recent NTP pool traffic increase”)?
Nothing. But it has to do with companies putting NTP into their products. When they do this with problematic configurations, it causes trouble. In this case, it was trouble for the Pool project. The NTP Pool project certainly isn't the place to solve this issue.
The NTP Pool is run by volunteers, as you very well know. Both the management and DNS system and the thousands of people who contribute their NTP service to the system. (And we manage on a pretty scarce budget).
What's your point? This sort of misconfiguration will happen and the NTP Pool Project clearly isn't the place to solve this problem overall. It *is* something NTF is in a position to address. And we're almost exclusively an overstretched volunteer organization, too, as you very well know. Do we have different goals around this issue? -- Harlan Stenn <stenn () nwtime org> http://networktimefoundation.org - be a member!
Current thread:
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase, (continued)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Peter Beckman (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Gary E. Miller (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Tim Raphael (Dec 20)
- RE: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Emille Blanc (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Tim Raphael (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Keenan Tims (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Laurent Dumont (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Harlan Stenn (Dec 20)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Ask Bjørn Hansen (Dec 22)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Harlan Stenn (Dec 22)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Royce Williams (Dec 22)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Harlan Stenn (Dec 22)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Laurent Dumont (Dec 22)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Philip Homburg (Dec 23)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Majdi S. Abbas (Dec 30)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Allan Liska (Dec 30)
- RE: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Emille Blanc (Dec 30)
- RE: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Allan Liska (Dec 30)
- RE: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Jeff McAdams (Dec 30)
- Re: Recent NTP pool traffic increase Harlan Stenn (Dec 30)