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Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption
From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 13:30:56 +1000
In message <2BB18527-2F9C-4FEE-95DD-3F89919A8049 () xyonet com>, Curtis Maurand wr ites:
If Time Warner (my ISP) put up IPv6 tomorrow, my firewall would no longer wo rk. I could put up a pfsnse or vyatta box pretty quickly, but my off the sh elf Cisco/Linksys home router has no ipv6 support hence the need to replace the hardware. There's no firmware update for it supporting ipv6 either. The re would be millions of people in the same boat.
Total garbage that *everyone* here should recognise as total garbage. If Time Warner turned on IPv6 your firewall would just continue to work as it always has. TURNING ON IPv6 DOES NOT TURN OFF IPV4. As for millions of people needing to upgrade their CPE equipement you really should be asking yourself if you should be rewarding those vendors for selling you IPv4 only equipement in the first place. If Microsoft, along with lots of other vendors could deliver IPv6 capable equipment in 2001, your and every other CPE vendor could have done so. Instead they sold you out of date garbage that you happily accepted. Mark
Cheers, Curtis On October 1, 2015 5:44:46 PM ADT, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:On Oct 1, 2015, at 12:06 , Curtis Maurand <cmaurand () xyonet com>wrote:On 10/1/2015 2:29 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:On Oct 1, 2015, at 00:39 , Baldur Norddahl<baldur.norddahl () gmail com> wrote:On 1 October 2015 at 03:26, Mark Andrews <marka () isc org> wrote:Windows XP does IPv6 fine so long as there is a IPv4 recursive server available. It's just a simple command to install IPv6. netsh interface ipv6 installIf the customer knew how to do that he wouldn't still be usingWindows XP.Actually I don't expect Gmail and Facebook to be IPv4 onlyforever.Gmail and Facebook are already dual stack enabled. But I do not see Facebook turning off IPv4 for a very long time. Therefore acustomer thatonly uses the Internet for a few basic things will be able to getalongwith being IPv4-only for a very long time.Yes and no⦠I think you are right about facebook. However, I think eventually the residential ISPs are going to startcharging extrafor IPv4 service. Some residences may pay for it initially, but ifthey think thereâs away to move away from it and the ISPs start fingerpointing to thespecific laggards,youâll see a groundswell of consumers pushing to find alternatives. Owenipv6 is going to force a lot of consumers to replace hardware. Worse,it's not easy to set up and get right as ipv4 is.--CurtisYouâre going to have to elaborate on that oneâ¦. I think IPv6 is actually quite a bit easier than IPv4, so please explicate in what ways it is harder to set up and get right? For the average household, itâs plug the IPv6-capable router in and let it go. For more advanced environments, it might take nearly as much effort as IPv4 and the unfamiliarity might add a couple of additional challenges the first time, but once you get past that, IPv6 has a lot of features that actually make it easier than IPv4. Not having to deal with NAT being just one of the big ones. Owen-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
-- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka () isc org
Current thread:
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Baldur Norddahl (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Owen DeLong (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Curtis Maurand (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Owen DeLong (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Curtis Maurand (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Mark Andrews (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Curtis Maurand (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Grzegorz Janoszka (Oct 02)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Owen DeLong (Oct 02)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Curtis Maurand (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Owen DeLong (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Owen DeLong (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Mark Andrews (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Todd Underwood (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Matthew Newton (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Todd Underwood (Oct 01)
- Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption Mark Andrews (Oct 01)