Re: New ISPs getting of the ground without IPv4?

[Justin Wilson - MTIN <lists () mtin net>]

The two I am working with are factoring buying IP space as part of the business model.  Folks like Cogent are now 
charging a $50 BGP fee so it is a new world.  I am seeing more and more folks go to MPLS to try and squeeze as many IPs 
out as they can. They are flattening their customer pools and saving a few IPs here and there.

A couple others are paying for circuits they no longer use just to hold onto IP space. 

Justin Wilson
j2sw () mtin net

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> On Nov 2, 2015, at 6:53 AM, nanog-isp () mail com wrote:
>
> Surprisingly enough demand for Internet services did not end when we ran out of IPv4. I'd like to hear from the guys 
> and gals starting new ISPs how they are facing this brave new world. 
>
> Is it NATs all the way down?
>
> Is IPv6 the knight in shining armor?
>
> Are you getting enough IPs? If not, how are you coping? Buying/renting some, tunneling to somebody who has some, what?
>
> It's all good and well hearing about how you should dual stack and reading about how established players handle IPv6 
> and IPv4 exhaustion, but what do you do when dual stacking isn't an option and IPv6 only takes you so far? 
>
> Now is your chance to shine and bring us some tales from the trenches :)
>
> Jared