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["Watson, Bob via NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>]

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> From: "Watson, Bob" <Bob.Watson () wwt com>
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> Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 01:36:39 +0000
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> Many of these churn rates result from problems  self inflicted hence all the dramatic sdn promises, popularity in 
> abstractions, Api all the things, let's go yang/netconf and retrofit every ietf standard.  There's benefits  but gotta 
> rant a little. What's better than correct? Well over correct of course.
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> > On May 7, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Josh Reynolds <josh () spitwspots com> wrote:
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> > You know where these people wouldn't fit? W/ISPs.
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> > Every three years or so you are forklifting the majority of your wireless PtMP for either a new series or a totally 
> > different vendor. New backhaul vendors often. You're building AC and DC power plants. You likely touch Cisco, 
> > juniper, HP, mikrotik, ubiquiti, Linux, windows, *BSD/pfsense, lucent, accedian/ciena, etc due to various client and 
> > network requirements all in the same week, AND you have to make them work together nicely :)
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> > It's not the environment for somebody like that, and I truly don't understand how people of that.. "caliber" end up 
> > working on large scale WANs and global transit networks.
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> > Frankly, it scares me a bit.
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> > > On May 7, 2015 9:07:35 AM AKDT, Craig <cvuljanic () gmail com> wrote:
> > > we do "cry" when we interview people that claim to have "advanced
> > > knowledge" of BGP and we ask them some very basic BGP questions, and we
> > > get
> > > a blank stare.....
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> > > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Rob Seastrom <rs () seastrom com> wrote:
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> > > > Josh Reynolds <josh () spitwspots com> writes:
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> > > > > It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so
> > > > > worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one
> > > > > thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these
> > > > > batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many "techs" to get
> > > > > lazy. They simply can't seem to operate well, if at all, in a
> > > > > non-Cisco (primarily) environment.
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> > > > If that bothers you, I recommend you not look at what passes for a
> > > > "system administrator" these days.  It will make you cry.
> > > >
> > > > -r
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> > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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