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Re: Bufferbloat related censorship at Virgin Media
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 16:14:33 -0800
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Jack Bates <jbates () paradoxnetworks net> wrote:
On 3/1/2015 5:28 PM, Dave Taht wrote:My IP address is apparently now banned from accessing your site at all, for "advertising", on this thread: http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Up-to-152Mb/Bufferbloat-High-Latency-amp-packet-loss-when-connection/td-p/2773495I don't see how codel is related to the customer complaint from their perspective. The problem appears to be high latency on downstream with little to no upstream. I'd probably call it off-topic advertising. The only thing that seems to relate to codel is the user's use of bufferbloat in the topic. Nothing the user can do will fix the downstream to my knowledge. Not that I'm extremely knowledgeable on the subject.
It is 100% possible to fix excessive downstream buffering from some misconfigured device with a shaper on the download *on the CPE or home router*. I have been doing that for 15 years. So has everyone that uses nearly any of the shapers that are available for Linux, at least. http://burntchrome.blogspot.com/2014_05_01_archive.html doing it yourself, right, requires a good measurement, and you lose just a little bit of single-flow bandwidth - typically 5% - but you get it all back with faster tcp ramp up times, huge improvements in dns lookups, voip, gaming, and other traffic. it generally works way better than policers do.
Jack
-- Dave Täht Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb
Current thread:
- Bufferbloat related censorship at Virgin Media Dave Taht (Mar 01)
- Re: Bufferbloat related censorship at Virgin Media Mel Beckman (Mar 01)
- Re: Bufferbloat related censorship at Virgin Media Dave Taht (Mar 01)
- Re: Bufferbloat related censorship at Virgin Media Mel Beckman (Mar 01)
- Re: Bufferbloat related censorship at Virgin Media Dave Taht (Mar 01)
- Re: Bufferbloat related censorship at Virgin Media Jack Bates (Mar 01)
- Re: Bufferbloat related censorship at Virgin Media Dave Taht (Mar 01)
- Re: Bufferbloat related censorship at Virgin Media Jack Bates (Mar 01)
- Re: Bufferbloat related censorship at Virgin Media Dave Taht (Mar 01)
- Re: Bufferbloat related censorship at Virgin Media Dave Taht (Mar 01)
- Re: Bufferbloat related censorship at Virgin Media Mel Beckman (Mar 01)