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Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th
From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:01:35 -0400
On Jun 12, 2015, at 1:40 PM, jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com> wrote: Todd, One of my few work "regrets" is we where not able to move this forward. There was/is lots of value in it.
There are many of us trying to tilt at these topics in various ways. I know that at $dayjob we try to keep things clean, monitor what’s going on etc.. I’m happy to dump any ASN into my leak detector stuff here that wants it: http://puck.nether.net/bgp/leakinfo.cgi it only looks for one type of thing, but with “the cloud” it’s much easier to toss feeds and compute at these things than 10-20 years ago. I’m always disappointed to find that people just “give up” at a certain scale in trying to filter things. I blame many of the vendors for not having the will to fix their BGP implementations to advertise no routes to a new peer without policy. I blame vendors for failing to train/test people on filtering routes as part of their *IE certification. If you’re an internet expert you don’t make these errors, or don’t have them occur for such a long duration. I blame vendors for selling devices route optimization that translate a regular BGP feed into a garbage feed that can cause global pollution. Many people don’t understand their IP routing “supply chain” so lines of people waiting to pay because you can’t swipe your card is the fault of many people, including the people without cash to cover their food bills. I can rant all day about this amongst other things. What have you done today to improve your routing security? - Jared
Current thread:
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th, (continued)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th jim deleskie (Jun 12)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Job Snijders (Jun 12)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Mark Tinka (Jun 13)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Roland Dobbins (Jun 13)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Grzegorz Janoszka (Jun 13)
- RE: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Jürgen Jaritsch (Jun 13)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Gavin Henry (Jun 13)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Justin M. Streiner (Jun 13)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th jim deleskie (Jun 12)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Todd Underwood (Jun 12)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th jim deleskie (Jun 12)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Jared Mauch (Jun 12)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Jared Mauch (Jun 12)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Rafael Possamai (Jun 13)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Niels Bakker (Jun 14)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Stephen Satchell (Jun 14)
- Re: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Jared Mauch (Jun 14)
- RE: Open letter to Level3 concerning the global routing issues on June 12th Evan Moore (Jun 14)