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Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill
From: Rafael Possamai <rafael () gav ufsc br>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:43:32 -0500
The best way to "complain" is to simply move the service to another provider (when possible). 50 bucks a month of revenue to them is not worth the hassle of having a tech user asking for all sorts of non-standard configs. It shouldn't be that way, but that's how it usually goes. Think about it, everyone else (almost literally) is watching cat videos on youtube and streaming shows on Netflix, so as long as that works, they will be making their money and not caring about anything else. When I got TWC business class a while back, I asked the account manager to draft a month to month contract. When I realized their DOCSIS network sucked, and that my gateway was going dark several times a week, I just cancelled, didn't bother arguing with them. I bet I was the only person in my block that cared about 99.9% uptime, so why would they bother doing anything. On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Andrew Kirch <trelane () trelane net> wrote:
I had to beat up on AT&T quite a bit, but instead of letting them "make notes", escalate to tier-2 because you can't reach work. Explain that you must have IPv6 to reach work to the tier-2. If they won't help demand to be escalated further. Your time on the phone costs them money. On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Seth Mos <seth.mos () dds nl> wrote:Ricky Beam schreef op 18-7-2015 om 1:14: On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 06:25:26 -0400, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:mean that your UBee has to do dhcpv6? (or the downstream thingy from the UBee has to do dhcpv6?)The Ubee "router" is in bridge mode. Customers have ZERO access to the thing, even when it is running in routed mode. So I have no idea whatit'strying to do. All I can say is no RAs are coming from it (through it/whatever) It *could* be it's blocking it -- it's multicast, so whoknowswhat it's doing with it. Without RAs, nothing connected to it will even attempt IPv6 -- the RA being the indicator to use DHCP or not, and who's the router. And further, when I tell my Cisco 1841 to do DHCP anyway, I get noanswer.So, the blanket statement that "it's ready" isn't true.For a point of interest, the Ubee 320 and 321 wireless routers/modems are in use by Ziggo in the Netherlands. Although they've rolled back the 320 modems to a older firmware, the 321 is still active on their IPv6 rollout. The problems were not strictly related to Ipv6 perse, but the newer firmware broken Voice on theseall-the-things-in-one devices. The 321 appears to be unaffected and is still active, although in just a few regions at this point of the rollout. What's very specific about this rollout in relation to the above, is that Ziggo is currently only supporting IPv6 with the Ubee in router mode(withthe wifi hotspot). The good news is that it also operates a DHCP-PDserverso that you can connect your own router to the Ubee and still get IPv6 routed to you out of the /56 allocated to the customer. For now, all the customers with the Ubee in bridge mode are SOL. It's not clear what the reason is, but Ubee in bridge mode with IPv6 is listed on the road map. If that's intentional policy or that the firmware isn'treadyyet is not clear at this point. Regards, Seth
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- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill, (continued)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Paul B. Henson (Jul 12)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Ricky Beam (Jul 13)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Lee Howard (Jul 15)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Ricky Beam (Jul 15)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Christopher Morrow (Jul 17)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Lee Howard (Jul 17)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Ricky Beam (Jul 17)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Seth Mos (Jul 18)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Andrew Kirch (Jul 18)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Christopher Morrow (Jul 18)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Rafael Possamai (Jul 18)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Ricky Beam (Jul 20)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Curtis Maurand (Jul 21)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Owen DeLong (Jul 21)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Ricky Beam (Jul 21)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Curtis Maurand (Jul 21)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Paul B. Henson (Jul 12)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill John Peach (Jul 13)
- RE: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill Paul B. Henson (Jul 13)
- Re: another tilt at the Verizon FIOS IPv6 windmill John Peach (Jul 13)