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Re: 'gray' market IPv4


From: Lee Howard <Lee () asgard org>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:05:51 -0400



On 7/16/15, 12:47 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Bryan Fields"
<nanog-bounces () nanog org on behalf of Bryan () bryanfields net> wrote:

On 7/15/15 9:59 AM, Lee Howard wrote:
Price varies significantly by prefix length, and somewhat by region.
Regional variance may not be as much as it used to be.

Does legacy space command a premium in this?

From what I understand, and I have not been a party to any transactions,
there are differences in transaction where the space looks ³cleaner.² That
is, space that has been less delegated, and has never appeared an a spam
blacklist. I don¹t know whether that translates to higher prices, or
whether buyers just won¹t buy questionable space.


What's the going rate to lease space (say a /20 or /19 for discussion)?

Leases aren¹t worth the trouble, because sellers believe that the only
reason for a temporary lease is to originate spam, following which the
address space is worthless. So if you can find a lease at all, it is
likely to cost as much or more than buying outright. Personally, I
wouldn¹t lease space at all, because I wouldn¹t want my organization¹s
name anywhere near it when the bad stuff started happening.
The ipv4auctions.com site lists prefixes that large; recent /20s have been
$7.45-$8.00 per address.

Bear in mind that I¹m essentially a researcher, and have no direct
experience. You might want to talk to a broker or three.

Lee


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