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Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion
From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 02:08:21 -0400
On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 21:15:57 -0400, Karl Auer <kauer () biplane com au> wrote:
Actually I was mentioning thousands.
Dozens, millions, whatever. Pick something and get on with it already.
What you personally don't foresee is pretty much irrelevant to what will actually happen...
And planning for a future that doesn't happen because you're too caught up in *planning* that future is irrelevant, too.
Like pretty much the entire current generation of net techs, your imagination is limited by your past. But there are kids in school right now who do not suffer from the same limitations - and they will build wonders.
And in ~15 years when they have a jobs, they can change what we built. (assuming ever let the paint dry long enough to use it.)
PS: People keep dissing "home users" saying how they are incapable of understanding stuff and installing all these complex networks. Twenty years ago getting online at home took lots of know-how; getting more than one device online in the home took even more. Now you can just buy a $50 bit of kit, plug it in and your desktops, laptops, smartphones, tablets, televisions, digital radios and wireless sound systems just work. With main and guest networks, multiple wifi protocols, and in many cases basic IPv6 as well. There is no reason to think that the complexity of future networks will not be equally well packaged for the home.
20 years ago was 1995. It took "some" know how (how to run setup.exe on the floppy you ISP sent you.) Windows 95 made it much easier by having that software in the default OS. Building a network took a bit longer to (a) be wanted/needed and (b) be available and affordable in the home. (few people had more than one computer to network in the first place. Today, you have three of them on your person at any given moment.)
Despite the proliferation of the internet and network tech, the average person today knows even less than two decades ago. Because everything "just works". IPv6 will never get there until it, too, "just works". We're still a long way off in the home -- both because providers aren't doing it, and because the CPE tech is lagging. Mobile by contrast, due to necessity and speed of tech turnover, is there already; you have to intentionally check to know you're using IPv6.
Current thread:
- Re: Also Facebook (was: Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion), (continued)
- Re: Also Facebook (was: Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion) Ricky Beam (Jul 09)
- Re: Also Facebook (was: Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion) Nicholas Suan (Jul 09)
- Re: Also Facebook (was: Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion) John Curran (Jul 10)
- Re: Also Facebook (was: Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion) Ricky Beam (Jul 10)
- Re: Also Facebook (was: Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion) Jared Mauch (Jul 10)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Matthew Kaufman (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 10)
- RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Naslund, Steve (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mike Hammett (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Karl Auer (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Ricky Beam (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Karl Auer (Jul 10)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Owen DeLong (Jul 10)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Owen DeLong (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mike Hammett (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Jared Mauch (Jul 09)
- RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Naslund, Steve (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mark Tinka (Jul 10)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Karl Auer (Jul 09)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Owen DeLong (Jul 08)
- Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion Mel Beckman (Jul 08)