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Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends
From: "Daniel C. Eckert" <dan () drakontas org>
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 11:29:53 -0700
This isn't really an open source issue -- anybody can make foolish product design decisions regardless of licensing model. This is more about a vendor producing a feature that deliberately and shortsightedly creates a slew of problems impacting almost all existing networks anywhere. It's highly convenient feature for a specific, limited use case (home users hosting a party with a bunch of people that they don't want to have to worry about how to give them a network password). However, gat ignores all of the other security and user impact issues. Can you imagine how the user experience will change when you change your SSID to include the _optout tag and then try to verbally tell someone what the new SSID is? Bonus points for dealing with users in a context where you've had the same SSID for years. On Jul 6, 2015 11:17 AM, "Richard Golodner" <rgolodner () infratection com> wrote:
There is a reason why my family loves open source. My kid is learning Linux and she doesn't even know it. Mommy has an Android... On 07/06/2015 12:53 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:From Lauren, a new "feature" in Windows 10 I think this communityprobably wants to know about, to the extent you don't already. I *knew* I didn't like W10. :-) Cheers, -- jra ----- Forwarded Message -----From: "PRIVACY Forum mailing list" <privacy () vortex com> To: privacy-list () vortex com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 8:03:06 PM Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/30/windows_10_wi_fi_sense/ In an attempt to address the security hole it has created, Microsoft offers a kludge of a workaround: you must add _optout to the SSID (the name of your network) to prevent it from working with Wi-Fi Sense. (So if you want to opt out of Google Maps and Wi-Fi Sense at the same time, you must change your SSID of, say, myhouse to myhouse_optout_nomap. Technology is great.) Microsoft enables Windows 10's Wi-Fi Sense by default, and access to password-protected networks are shared with contacts unless the user remembers to uncheck a box when they first connect. Choosing to switch it off may make it a lot less useful, but would make for a more secure IT environment. - - - --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein (lauren () vortex com): http://www.vortex.com/lauren Founder: - Network Neutrality Squad: http://www.nnsquad.org - PRIVACY Forum: http://www.vortex.com/privacy-info Co-Founder: People For Internet Responsibility: http://www.pfir.org/pfir-info Member: ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com Google+: http://google.com/+LaurenWeinstein Twitter: http://twitter.com/laurenweinstein Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 / Skype: vortex.com _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list http://lists.vortex.com/mailman/listinfo/privacy
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- Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Jay Ashworth (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Richard Golodner (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Daniel C. Eckert (Jul 06)
- Re: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Javier Henderson (Jul 06)
- Re: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Stefan Neufeind (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Anurag Bhatia (Jul 06)
- Re: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Owen DeLong (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Daniel C. Eckert (Jul 06)
- RE: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Andrew Bosch (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Hugo Slabbert (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends rdrake (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Richard Golodner (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Richard Golodner (Jul 06)
- RE: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Dan Gamble (Jul 06)