Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

[Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com>]

Jack,

I don't know what manufacturer you might be thinking of, but from a
standards point of view ADSL2 and ADSL2+ both have faster upstream speeds
than ADSL (G.dmt or T1.413)


   - ANSI T1.413 Issue 2 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_T1.413_Issue_2>,
   up to 8 Mbit/s and 1 Mbit/s
   - G.dmt <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.992.1>, ITU-T G.992.1, up to
   10 Mbit/s and 1 Mbit/s
   - G.lite <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.992.2>, ITU-T G.992.2, more
   noise and attenuation resistant than G.dmt, up to 1,536 kbit/s and
   512 kbit/s
   - Asymmetric digital subscriber line 2
   <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_digital_subscriber_line_2> (ADSL2),
   ITU-T G.992.3, up to 12 Mbit/s and 3.5 Mbit/s
   - Asymmetric digital subscriber line 2 plus
   <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_digital_subscriber_line_2_plus>
(ADSL2+),
   ITU-T G.992.5, up to 24 Mbit/s and 3.5 Mbit/s



Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
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On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Jack Bates <jbates () paradoxnetworks net>
wrote:

> On 2/27/2015 11:03 AM, Bruce H McIntosh wrote:
>
> > The REAL evil in the ISP marketplace is, of course, essentially entirely
> > unremarked-upon - ASYMMETRY.  For the Internet, as such, truly to live up
> > to its promise to continue to revolutionize the world through free exchange
> > of ideas, information, data and so forth, Joe Average User *MUST* have the
> > same pipes going UP as he does coming DOWN.  Just as an example, my service
> > at home is what, 50 down/5 up?  That structure is less conducive to free
> > interchange and more conducive to the Big-Brother™-seal-of-approval
> > mindless consumption of whatever content THEY™ deem necessary and
> > sufficient to keep the bread and circus masses dull and uninvolved.  Plus,
> > the slow uplink speeds make remote backups dreadfully impractical for the
> > home user.  So let's see some symmetry in the offerings, ISPs, ok?
> I'm all for this, except many technologies don't allow for it. Even if
> they did, you might see a lot less down in exchange for that upload. That
> may be fine for some, but would be undesired by others.
>
> I laugh every time I see a billboard locally that says, "Enjoy your free
> speed upgrade". They switched all their customers from ADSL to ADSL2 and
> gave them a slight download increase. Of course, ADSL2 has a slower upload
> limit. 500k may not seem a lot, but when you only had 1.5m to begin with,
> it's a considerable amount.