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Re: Drops in Core


From: Rafael Possamai <rafael () gav ufsc br>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:39:51 -0500

That was just an example, that list has to be completed on a specific
network or scenario, it changes dramatically. Imagine you were to create a
list for a DoD network instead of public peering based network, it would
change dramatically.



On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Glen Kent <glen.kent () gmail com> wrote:

Why do you say that Layer 1 issues in the last mile would be very high?
How is it any different from the first mile?

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Rafael Possamai <rafael () gav ufsc br>
wrote:

Hi Glen,

If you first list the causes of a dropped packet, then you can figure out
how likely they are at different points in time (first\last\peer\etc) by
making some assumptions.

Here's an **example**:

*Cause | Location | Likelihood*
Congestion | Last mile | Low
Congestion | First mile | Low
Congestion | Peering | Medium
Layer 1 | First mile | Low
Layer 1 | Core | Low
Layer 1 | Last mile | High

You can even go as far as drawing a cause and effect diagram for each
location. Then you can collect real world data and fine tune your
assumptions.


Rafael


On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Glen Kent <glen.kent () gmail com> wrote:

Hi,

Is it fair to say that most traffic drops happen in the access layers, or
the first and the last miles, and the % of packet drops in the core are
minimal? So, if the packet has made it past the first mile and has
"entered" the core then chances are high that the packet will safely get
across till the exit in the core. Sure once it gets off the core, then
all
bets are off on whether it will get dropped or not. However, the key
point
is that the core usually does not drop too many packets - the probability
of drops are highest in the access side.

Is this correct?

Glen






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