RE: Windows 10 Release

["Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf () dessus com>]

It takes no effort at all.  You just do the same thing as has been done with every previous version of windows:

When it asks for a LOCAL account and password, give it one.  When it asks if you want to do a Microsoft Account", say 
no thank-you.  Mind you, it does ask you about 8 times if you are REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY sure you don't want to 
create or use a Microsoft account (obviously because that must be worth a LOT of money to microsoft).

But you do not have to do it.  And it is not difficult to avoid creating/using a microsoft account.

Nor does not having a Microsoft Account have any adverse effect.  It just means that you cannot use the crappy apps or 
the crappy app store.  The only failing that I find is that there is no way to actually get rid of all the cruft -- to 
say "I do not want to use a Microsoft Account so please permanently remove anything which requires it, or which cannot 
be maintained without it".

It is not as bad, however, as their propensity for turning the firewall off (and diddling the rules) everytime you get 
even the slightest update such that you have to go into the firewall settings on a daily basis and make sure they are 
still set the way YOU want them set and not the way Microsoft wants them set (Microsoft wants them completely disabled).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Scott Helms
> Sent: Thursday, 30 July, 2015 10:35
> To: Justin Mckillican
> Cc: nanog () nanog org list
> Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
>
> Justin,
>
> That's true, but it takes effort for people to either set up a local
> account or change to one, and very few consumers will do that or have.
>
>
> Scott Helms
> Vice President of Technology
> ZCorum
> (678) 507-5000
> --------------------------------
> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
> --------------------------------
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Justin Mckillican <justin () mckill ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Nope.  For the upgrade the only piece of information MSFT needed was
> your
> > email if you chose email notification once the upgrade was ready for
> you.
> > After it's installed it will ask to finish up the install the 'Express'
> > method which enabled a bunch of things like WIFI password sharing to
> > friends and whatever else or if you chose the manual option like I did
> you
> > can disable everything.  It will also inherit your existing user
> settings,
> > so if your user is a local one instead of a cloud one it will continue
> to
> > be that way.
> >
> > It does install One Drive but again, if you never configured it or used
> it
> > then you'll simply see it in your task bar with the "welcome" or signup
> > screen.
> >
> >
> > -justin
> >
> > > On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Since the requirement is that users are upgrading from Win 7, 8, or
> 8.1
> > > they've already had to create at least a minimal MS ID which means
> either
> > > creating an email account on Outlook.com or providing an existing
> email
> > > address and  a password for MS.
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Helms
> > > Vice President of Technology
> > > ZCorum
> > > (678) 507-5000
> > > --------------------------------
> > > http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
> > > --------------------------------
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Matthew Black
> <Matthew.Black () csulb edu
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are users required to create any type of Microsoft cloud account
> (e.g.,
> > > > OneDrive, Office365, et alil) in order to install and use Windows 10?
> Of
> > > > Office? Is it possible to simply use Windows 10 without any Microsoft
> or
> > > > Google or Yahoo accounts?
> > > >
> > > > Is the unique identifier available to advertisers only through IE (or
> > its
> > > > successor) OR will it also be available through Firefox/Chrome?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > matthew black
> > > > california state university, long beach