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Re: Cisco's IOS-XE and PCEP implementation


From: Mohamed Kamal <mkamal () noor net>
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 22:42:46 +0300


and hence being implemented on IOS-XR within the Cisco environment today

I disagree! .. Engineering is all about optimization, and using an ASR1k
(which is being marketed as an "edge/PE router") in my edge doesn't mean
that my network is not a "high-scale environment", it does mean that it
fits my needs in this location, where other IOS-XR (ASR9k) fits in others.

Plus, PCEP is no magic, Juniper's MX series starting from the vMX is
supporting PCEP. They didn't claim that, a "higher-scale environment" is
being required for this.

the demand for online calculation has increased - either due to dependencies for new TE path-instantiating protocols 
(e.g., SR), or more complex constraints that cannot be well met by offline calculation or CSPF

That's why PCEP support should be added to the road-map in the near future.

Mohamed Kamal
Core Network Sr. Engineer

On 4/5/2015 8:33 PM, Rob Shakir wrote:
On 30 March 2015 at 15:42:59, Mohamed Kamal (mkamal () noor net) wrote:
I'm wondering, why there is no MPLS-TE PCE support for IOS-XE till now?!
 
Should I be getting a 9k/CRS on the edge to implement an automatic tool
to build MPLS-TE tunnels!
In general, PCE(P) implementations have been limited. IMHO the last 10 years of RSVP-TE management has generally been 
done with auto-mesh tools, or in-house driven offline path calculation tools (e.g., WANDL, Cariden, Aria…). 

As such, the demand for online calculation has increased - either due to dependencies for new TE path-instantiating 
protocols (e.g., SR), or more complex constraints that cannot be well met by offline calculation or CSPF (e.g., 
path-diversity with disjoint head-end PEs). This demand is mainly coming in higher-scale environments - and hence 
being implemented on IOS-XR within the Cisco environment today. I expect this is why IOS-XE is lagging. There are 
certainly requests for support - but as Mark says, you’ll need to interface with your account team to figure out when 
code will be available for your platform.

As to whether you should buy an IOS XR device for your edge, I’m not sure what kind of logic would mean that device 
selection is solely based on PCEP support :-). I would certainly look more into the existing “automatic” tools, and 
possibilities for offline calculation in the interim period.

r.



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