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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch
From: Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:20:12 -0500
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:40 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote: [snip]
It started as a replacement init system. I suspected it had jumped the shark when it sprouted an entirely new DHCP and NTP service. And this
Yikes. What's next? Built-in DNS server + LDAP/Hesiod + Kerberos + SMB/Active Directory client and server + Solitaire + Network Neighborhood functionality built into the program ? I would like to note, that I prefer Upstart as in RHEL 6. The all-in-one approach of systemd might have a place on some specialized desktop distros, but outside that niche its' IMO a terrible idea. The proper fix is probably a go back to Upstart or SysVInit and rewrite systemd, so all the pieces are separated and exist as a higher layer on top of init. Nothing wrong with having a concept such as a "systemd-desktop-program-launcher" application that the real init system runs.
was confirmed when I saw this: "Leading up to this has been cursor rendering support, keyboard mapping support, screen renderer, DRM back-end, input interface, and dozens of other commits."
-- -JH
Current thread:
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT], (continued)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 26)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Tim Franklin (Oct 24)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Rich Kulawiec (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Stephen Satchell (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Barry Shein (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Barry Shein (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Eugeniu Patrascu (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jim Popovitch (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Rahul Sawarkar (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch joe mcguckin (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jimmy Hess (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Matt Palmer (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Andre Tomt (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch * (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jim Popovitch (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 23)
- RE: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jeff Masiello (Oct 24)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Matt Palmer (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Miles Fidelman (Oct 21)