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Re: Marriott wifi blocking


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:21:11 -0400



On Oct 6, 2014, at 11:20 PM, Jay Hennigan <jay () west net> wrote:

On 10/6/14, 8:41 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:

Actually, in multiple situations, the FCC has stated that you are responsible
when deploying a new unlicensed transmitter to insure that it is deployed in
such a way that it will not cause harmful interference to existing operations.

Using the same SSID of someone else who is already present would, IMHO,
meet the test of “causing harmful interference”.

Really? From a radio perspective if it isn't on the same RF channel?

In fact, yes. Since clients bind based on SSID and return to whatever channel the AP tells them to as a result, it's 
still an issue and still fits within the purview of RF regulation. Further, most of the channels somewhat overlap as 
it's a spread-spectrum technology, so the traditional concepts of "channel" don't actually completely apply (this is a 
good thing, actually).

I'm not so sure about that. It might cause interference to the revenue
stream, it could be considered a trademark infringement especially if it
leads to a fake "splash page" with the Marriott logo, and it could
certainly be used for malicious MITM purposes, but it doesn't cause
harmful interference to the existing user from the perspective of radio
frequency use.

It does, actually, because the client may well rebind to the other AP thinking it's still part of the same ESS (since 
ESS are usually identified by sharing a common SSID).

Owen


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