RE: CMTS/Public Wifi provisioning question

["Armstrong, Bill R" <Bill.Armstrong () charter com>]

That’s what I was thinking, I'm not sure about the specifics of the implementation in question but the SSID may have a 
unique tunnel address(back to a wireless controller) which *could* be used to tag the flows with a specific SCN. 


-Bill


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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Blake Hudson
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:03 AM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: CMTS/Public Wifi provisioning question

DOCSIS config files allow one to use service flow classifiers that match on a variety of criteria. I imagine either the 
IP range used for public access or the SSID/VLAN/Interface of the wifi hotspot could be used in this instance. 
http://www.cmtsinfo.net/?howto=cm_config provides a good general overview of what's available and how to apply (see 
section 6 on classifiers).

Of course, even if a dedicated service flow is used, this could still compete with the bandwidth available to the modem 
or to other modems served on the same node. I could envision this making network bandwidth management more difficult as 
customers roam, especially if they densely congregate.

--Blake

Frank Bulk wrote the following on 5/29/2014 10:27 PM:
> Interesting, I may need to open a ticket with Moto to ask how that’s done.
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> From: Scott Helms [mailto:khelms () zcorum com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:58 AM
> To: Frank Bulk
> Cc: Jay Ashworth; NANOG
> Subject: Re: CMTS/Public Wifi provisioning question
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>  From talking to folks involved with http://www.cablewifi.com/ and 
> Comcast support there is a separate service flow for the public SSID.  
> I have yet to configure that in the lab, but it sounds like a good 
> project :)
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> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Frank Bulk <frnkblk () iname com <mailto:frnkblk () iname com> > wrote:
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> It's my understanding that the public Wi-Fi uses the same data flow as the subcriber's data flow.  I've seen nothing 
> in the release notes for ARRIS or Moto that suggest one can tie an SSID to a specific service flow.
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> Frank
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org 
> <mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org> ] On Behalf Of Jay Ashworth
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:01 AM
> To: NANOG
> Subject: CMTS/Public Wifi provisioning question
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> I expect Frank Bulk to have an opinion on this, all others welcome.
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> Hat tip to Bright House -- I've noticed lately that I don't have to go 
> through their captive portal when using their public wifi hotspots 
> (they participate in the CableWifi consortium, using WAPs built into 
> their
> 6580 and other cablemodems, and offer a carrier-specific connection 
> SSID as well).
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> This has led me to a point of curiosity:
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> If I'm the subscriber, and I've paid for 15 mb/s down, then my wired 
> connection and my private wireless (if provisioned, and they charge 
> $10/mo, so I'll do that myself, thanks) are using one ... DOCSIS path?
> back to the CMTS.
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> I assume that cableco provided voice is on a separate path, and I'm 
> sure the TV service is -- if it's even IP at all.
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> But the question is: is that public wifi service *also* on a separate 
> bandwidth-limited channel out of the cablemodem?
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> Offline replies fine, unless you think it's of sufficiently general 
> interest; I expect it's implementation dependent.
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> Cheers,
> -- jra
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