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Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica
From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:17:09 -0400 (EDT)
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From: "Jimmy Hess" <mysidia () gmail com>
Hey, what part of "up to 8Mbps" is an assurance, that the system supports 8Mbps from all customers 24x7 simultaneously? Only the former can be delivered inexpensively; the latter from large service providers is a business service that doesn't seem to be in the compass of ordinary mortals. Because this is the well-known industry standard; it can't accurately be described as one of deception.
[ started this, and then got tied up with community theatre. Oops. ] No part of it is, legally; all of it is, to the paying customer who isn't versed in oversubscription. Oversubscription (what I used to call bandwidth-surfing when I had to do it -- 1995, 60 33k6 modems on a 256k FR link :-), will be around for a long time to come. How far you can *push* it without losing customers is the question, and the feedback loop is slow, and the response to a new provider who doesn't push it as hard is usually sharper than you can survive... Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra () baylink com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
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- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Blake Hudson (Mar 23)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Matthew Petach (Mar 23)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Niels Bakker (Mar 23)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Matthew Petach (Mar 23)
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- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs’ refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Mark Tinka (Mar 20)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs’ refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Patrick W. Gilmore (Mar 19)
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