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Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica
From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:40:53 -0400
On Mar 21, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net> wrote:
On Mar 21, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net> wrote:Why wouldn't you instead charge for the build out as a NRC and then =charge=20for maintenance as a MRC?I for one would be willing to bear a high NRC start-up cost for someone = building fiber to my home. Not everyone would make that tradeoff.I was discussing the cost that the service provider had to pay in the context of a "$4/mo copper pair" for rental of a copper pair that the ILEC almost certainly did not need to install. I do not see why the cost for build out needs to be included in the actual monthly cost an ILEC needs to charge. I think that utilities have a long history of proving that the cost for build out can be successfully charged to the property owner in several ways as you note. I don't see it as being an insurmountable problem to find some way for an intermediate service provider to deal with this if needed.
Sure, but for POTS this installation NRC was regulated for residential (at least last time I ordered a POTS line for a home, which was ....) The cost of the O&M on the switch and OSP is likely less than what I pay them. The history was they were allowed to show costs and add on a margin and rate increases would be approved. I don't want to know what their costs are after ice storms... Here in Michigan there was a recent law passed to allow ending of service in areas starting January 2017. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/%28S%28la3cxz45kfy2bs55wvsiqy55%29%29/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=2013-SB-0636 - Jared
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- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Jim Popovitch (Mar 21)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Naslund, Steve (Mar 21)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Keegan Holley (Mar 21)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Adrian (Mar 21)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Naslund, Steve (Mar 23)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Mark Tinka (Mar 24)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Joe Greco (Mar 21)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Jared Mauch (Mar 21)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Owen DeLong (Mar 21)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Joe Greco (Mar 21)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Jared Mauch (Mar 21)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Naslund, Steve (Mar 23)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Frank Bulk (Mar 23)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Naslund, Steve (Mar 23)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Frank Bulk (Mar 23)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Naslund, Steve (Mar 23)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Owen DeLong (Mar 24)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Frank Bulk (Mar 26)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Owen DeLong (Mar 26)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Naslund, Steve (Mar 23)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica Lamar Owen (Mar 24)