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RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica


From: "Naslund, Steve" <SNaslund () medline com>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:25:09 +0000


How do you get around the problem of natural monopolies, then?   Or should
we be moving to a world where, say, a dozen or more separate companies are all running fiber or coax on the poles on 
my street in an effort to get to my >>house?

We already did it.  The Telecommunications Act allows competitive service providers to buy access circuits on the 
incumbents infrastructure.  There are some limitations in that you can't always get competitive access to new networks 
like FIOS (this to allow the incumbent to recoup their costs by exclusive access for some period of time).  The access 
rates are low only when the infrastructure is already in the ground.  That is why the new stuff is not factored in.


IMHO, the only way to get real competition on the last mile is to have the actual fiber/wire infrastructure being 
owned by a neutral party that's required to >>pass anyone's traffic.

Nice idea, too bad no one can make any money on building infrastructure but not selling the services on top of it.  
Remember Global Crossing?  You are asking one company to put up all the capital expense and then try to recover it by 
allowing access to their infrastructure to anyone at low rates.  Not gonna work.  Just on a piece of paper, figure out 
what it costs to get fiber to your neighborhood from the nearest central office and then how much you have to charge to 
pay for that.  If you can get a reasonable price that returns your investment within 20 years, I will be impressed.

The other way that is often suggested is that the municipality own the backbone.  That might work except they want to 
tax you and then also nail the service providers so they do exclusive deals like you see in cable franchises that screw 
the consumer.

Steven Naslund




On 3/21/14, 12:28 AM, "Larry Sheldon" <LarrySheldon () cox net> wrote:

On 3/20/2014 10:47 PM, David Miller wrote:
Unless I am reading the tea leaves wrong "competition" will require
"regulation".

"regulation" prevents "competition".  That is why people want regulation.

Look at this thread at the people who do not want to be competed-with at
L1, for example.

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