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Re: Muni Fiber and Politics
From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:29:17 -0400 (EDT)
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From: "William Herrin" <bill () herrin us>
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:Over the last decade, 19 states have made it illegal for municipalities to own fiber networksHi Jay, Everything government does, it does badly. Without exception. There are many things government does better than any private organization is likely to sustain, but even those things it does slowly and at an exorbitant price.
Sure it does, Bill. Retake civics, will you? Read about The Public Good, and tell me how profit-driven corporations -- especially public ones -- are the orgs best suited to protect and support it.
Muni fiber is a competition killer. You can't beat city hall; once built it's not practical to compete, even with better service, so residents are stuck with only the overpriced (either directly or via taxes), usually underpowered and always one-size-fits-all network access which results. As an ISP I watched something similar happen in Altoona PA a decade and a half ago. It was a travesty.
Did you miss, perhaps, the 2 month long thread I started end of 2012, concerning building out a L1/L2 fiber muni?
The only exception I see to this would be if localities were constrained to providing point to point and point to multipoint communications infrastructure within the locality on a reasonable and non-discriminatory basis. The competition that would foster on the services side might outweigh the damage on the infrastructure side. Like public roads facilitate efficient transportation and freight despite the cost and potholes, though that's an imperfect simile.
I guess you didn't. May 6 fiber installers dig up the street in front of your house over the next 2 years.
Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
Possibly not. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra () baylink com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
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- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics, (continued)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Miles Fidelman (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Bruce H McIntosh (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Herrin (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Gary Buhrmaster (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Allen Simpson (Jul 25)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Herrin (Jul 25)
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- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Larry Sheldon (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics John Osmon (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Larry Sheldon (Jul 21)