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Re: Open source hardware


From: Daniël W. Crompton <daniel.crompton () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 11:05:30 +0100

Good point Jimmy, there is a world of hurt involved, although it may be
slightly less painless when you realize that the alternative is: "*the NSA
[who] has modified the firmware of computers and network hardware—including
systems shipped by Cisco, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Huawei, and Juniper
Networks—to give its operators both eyes and ears inside the offices the
agency has targeted.*"[1]

There's already a world of hurt involved when you can't trust your
equipment because they potentially have backdoors in them.

D.


1.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/inside-the-nsas-leaked-catalog-of-surveillance-magic/






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On 3 January 2014 06:01, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Andrew Duey <
andrew.duey () widerangebroadband net> wrote:

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned vyatta.org or the new fork of VyOs.  We
are currently using the vyatta community edition and so far it's been
good
to to us.  It depends on your hardware and how small of an ISP you are
but
it might be a great open source fit for you.


The orig. author has potentially set course for a world of hurt --  if the
plan is to scrap robust packaged highly-validated gear having separate
hardware forwarding planes and ASIC-driven filtering,  to stick cheap x86
servers in the SP core and internet borders.

Sure... anyone can install Vyatta on a x86 server,   but  assembly of all
the pieces and full validation for a resilient platform comparable to
carrier grade gear, for a mission critical network,  should be a bit more
involved than that.

Next up....   how to build your own  10-Gigabit  SFPs to avoid paying for
expensive brand-name SFPs,  by putting together some chips,  wires,  fiber,
and tying it all together with a piece of duck tape....

just saying... :)


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