nanog mailing list archives

Re: Will a single /27 get fully routed these days?


From: Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:50:43 -0600

On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:02 PM, John R. Levine <johnl () iecc com> wrote:

I don't see ARIN recognizing bogus transfers in the registry -- if the
transfer policy wasn't followed, then no transfer occurred.


 Well, maybe.  My vision is that the ISP calls up their upstreams and/or
peers, some say OK, many say, sorry, unless you're offering to fund some
very expen$ive router upgrade$, we can't do it.  Even the ones who say OK
will have little incentive to push their peers, so there will be flaky
islands of routing.

The customer will continue to whine, of course, at which point the ISP has
the bright idea to do some traceroutes and figure out which ISP announces
the enclosing block.  They call up that ISP and ask, what would you charge
to tunnel that traffic back to us?

[snip]


If it's a /28 allocation under ARIN NRPM 4.10;  there is no  assignee that
gets to announce the enclosing /24.

I do not see in the cards, a lot of /28 allocations occuring.

Since 4.10 addresses are exclusively for IPv6 transition,  immediate need
criteria must be met, and "the applicant must demonstrate that no other
allocations or assignments will meet this need";  I doubt there will be a
significant number of /28s that will fit the need.

More likely, those that would utilize 4.10 will be asking for a /24
 allocation, if addresses need to be routed.

Or a /28;  if the transition function where the addresses are required are
small,  and they do not require global reachability.

Another answer for end users may well be.... instead of accepting /28s into
your table:  implement IPv6 instead,  so you are not needing IPv4  to
connect to these networks that have deployed IPv6 and are requiring the /28
for a special IPv4 to IPv6 transition purpose.

-- 
-JH


Current thread: