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Re: Route Server Filters at IXPs and 4-byte ASNs


From: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:16:08 -0200


What happens, if the IXP uses a 4-byte ASN? RFC5668 (4-Octet AS Specific
BGP Extended Community) defines <Global Admin,4bytes>:<Local Admin,
2bytes>.

I have been asking some IXP operators, about their practice and their
reply was "4-byte ASNs are supported by our RS". What's your experience?
Did you see IXPs, that do not support them? Do you think, the IXP
operators are aware of this limitation? Have you seen IXPs with 4-byte
ASNs or do RIRs reserve 2-byte ASNs for future IXPs?  What other
operational problems did you experience while using 4-byte ASNs?


Do you see an issue with future IXP or future IXP members ?
You can see at this list of members of one IXP that there are both 2-byte
and 4-byte ASNs living in harmony, with a large number of 4-byte ones:
http://ptt.br/particip/sp

The IXP itself is using a 2-byte public ASN, so if at some point
communities are used (although there are route-servers capable of granular
policy without communities), they could use standard 2-byte community
format.

And with a bit coordination, 2-byte private ASNs and communities could be
used to overcome limitations in member routers support of 4-byte ASNs.

Rubens


 telnet lg.sp.ptt.br

Trying 200.160.1.3...

Connected to lg.sp.ptt.br.

Escape character is '^]'.

==============================================

=               PTTMetro SP                  =

=            Contact: eng () ptt br             =

=              +55 11 5509-3550              =

=            inoc-dba: 22548*100             =

=                                            =

=          Looking Glass Server              =

=   All connections and keystrokes logged    =

==============================================


lg.sp.ptt.br> show ip bgp summary

BGP router identifier 187.16.218.252, local AS number 20121

RIB entries 32868, using 3081 KiB of memory

Peers 4, using 18 KiB of memory


Neighbor        V    AS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down
State/PfxRcd

187.16.216.253  4 26162 3294906 1619885        0    0    0 05w0d23h    19247

187.16.216.254  4 26162 3468468 1617924        0    0    0 01w5d06h    19227


Total number of neighbors 2


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