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Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org)
From: Cb B <cb.list6 () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:20:15 -0800
On Jan 16, 2014 10:16 AM, "Saku Ytti" <saku () ytti fi> wrote:
On (2014-01-16 09:19 -0800), Cb B wrote:I hope QUIC does not stay on UDP, as it may find itself cut off at the legs.Any new L4 would need to support both flavours, over UDP and native. Over
UDP
is needed to be deployable right now and be working to vast majority of
the
end users. Native-only would present chicken and egg problem, goog/fb/amzn/msft etc
won't
add support to it, because failure rate is too high, and stateful box
vendors
won't add support, because no customer demand. And what becomes to deployment pace, good technologies which give
benefits to
end users can and have been deployed very fast. IPv6 does not give benefit to end users, EDNS does not give benefit to end users. QUIC/MinimaLT/IETF-transport-standardized-version would give benefit to
end
users, all persistent connections like ssh would keep running when you
jump
between networks. You could in your homeserver specifically allow /you/ to connect to any service, regardless of your IP address, because key is your identity, not
your
IP address. (So sort of LISPy thing going on here, we'd make IP more
low-level
information which it should be, it wouldn't be identity anymore) Parity packets have potential to give much better performance in packet
loss
conditions. Packet pacing seems much better on fast to slow file
transfers.
-- ++ytti
Then let's go all the way with ILNP. I like that. CB
Current thread:
- "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org), (continued)
- "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Andrew Sullivan (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Christopher Morrow (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Andrew Sullivan (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Christopher Morrow (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Andrew Sullivan (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Cb B (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Andrew Sullivan (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Cb B (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Bjoern A. Zeeb (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Saku Ytti (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Cb B (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Jimmy Hess (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Mark Andrews (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Jimmy Hess (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Mark Andrews (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Cb B (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Mark Andrews (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Jared Mauch (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Andrew Sullivan (Jan 16)
- Re: "trivial" changes to DNS (was: OpenNTPProject.org) Tony Finch (Jan 17)