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Re: comcast business service


From: Dan Shoop <shoop () iwiring net>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:14:12 -0500


On Feb 20, 2014, at 4:08 AM, shawn wilson <ag4ve.us () gmail com> wrote:

A while ago I got Comcast's business service. Semi-idle connections
are get dropped (I haven't really diagnosed this - I just no that it
isn't the client or server but some network in between). However the
second and most obvious issue is that intermittently, the service will
grind to a halt:
--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
37 packets transmitted, 34 received, 8% packet loss, time 36263ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 398.821/5989.160/14407.055/3808.068 ms, pipe 15

After a modem reboot, it goes normal:
--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 23.181/23.920/24.298/0.474 ms

This seems to happen about once or twice a day. I can't attribute it
to any type of traffic or number of connections. All of the rest of
the network equipment is the same and the behavior persists when a
computer is plugged directly into the modem. I called Comcast and they
said they didn't see anything even when I was experiencing ridiculous
ping times. I tend to think it's an issue with the 'modem' but I'm not
sure what the issue might be or how to reproduce it when asked to if I
tell them to look at it.

I’ve seen this happen before with various cable ISPs. I’d concur with the poster suggesting intermittent noise on the 
cable segment as a likely culprit. Also if you have a cable modem that binds multiple channels for higher bandwidth 
this can also be problematic, especially with the noise. Signals will look good to the NOC but it’s not the signal 
“level" that’s the issue it’s the signal to noise level. Noise has to be measured locally and techs don’t always check 
SNL. 

Also check to see if the packets aren’t actually being dropped but just taking longer than ping is looking for. Also 
check for out of sequence packets returned. These can indicate flapping of a bonded circuit or the bonded circuit 
experiencing noise. Try seeing if you disconnect everything and get a straight run to the demarc, with a know and 
tested out good cable, if the problem doesn’t ever occur. This could indicate noise on the cable in your premise. But 
I’ve experienced this same problem with noise coming through the demarc. I’ve also seen levels too hot beyond the 
demarc causing similar problems too. 

HTH.


-d 

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Dan Shoop
shoop () iwiring net
1-646-402-5293 (GoogleVoice)






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