RE: merry xmas

["Mann, Jason" <jamann () mt gov>]

Merry Christmas to everyone and happy New Year!!

-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Jeroen Massar
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:36 PM
To: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: merry xmas

On 2014-12-24 20:06, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 19:38:18 +0100, Jeroen Massar said:
>
> > Thank you for wasting IPv4 space btw, that way IPv6 has to be there 
> > earlier, and as you don't have IPv6 yet, good luck with your business 
> > ;)
>
> Feeling a tad grinchly, are we? :)
>
> 'whois 82.133.91.0' reports this:
>
> % Information related to '82.133.0.0/17AS9105'
>
> route:          82.133.0.0/17
> descr:          Tiscali UK Limited
>
> Feel free to explain how we can *sanely* reclaim a single /24 from a 
> /17 without it looking like a hijacking.

Why would one bother with IPv4?

Just start using IPv6, that IPv4 stuff will disappear over the next few decades by itself.

> Now, *that* would be a really nice holiday gift to the net.

A /17 would only last a few moments, not worth the effort of recovering it. Though indeed the reason why CGNs are being 
deployed is so that the business parts of the same company can charge extra for public IPv4s.


On 2014-12-24 20:21, Ken Chase wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 07:38:18PM +0100, Jeroen Massar said:
>
>   >Welcome to the end of 2014.
>
> Yes, I know, fakeroute has been around a while (so has das 
> blinkenlights, but I still find both cute. <must resist the BOFH 
> jadedness>
>
> Though it has been a longwhile since anyone forwarded me DECWARS...
>
> /* fakeroute (c) 1996 Julian Assange <proff () iq org> */

Interesting, I did remember rotorouter[1] and check the below url for what the reply to that was, the above one. Funny, 
seems that mr.Assange did something semi-useful with computers back then *wink* ;)

That trick does not help in setting the reverses though as one does not control them; though one could possibly find 
all the 'sentences' in reverses around the net and reorder them into something coherent...

Greets,
 Jeroen

[1] http://www.shmoo.com/mail/bugtraq/aug98/msg00110.html