Re: automatic / intelligent fiber optic patch panel (iow SDN @ layer 0)

[Peter teStrake <Peter.teStrake () tradingscreen com>]

Actually you are right Ammar, it does look similar so maybe not appropriate in this situation.  

Automated cross connects are one of the challenges they are looking to address so it would be interesting to understand 
why this would not work. 

-Pete



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> On 15 Dec 2014, at 11:02, Ammar Zuberi <ammar () fastreturn net> wrote:
>
> Doesn't the MetaMako device do exactly the same thing as the Glimmerglass photonic switch?
>
> Ammar
>
> > On 15 Dec 2014, at 2:50 pm, Peter teStrake <Peter.teStrake () tradingscreen com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Arnold,
> >
> > I have recently been talking to these guys (
> > https://www.metamako.com/use-cases/ ) about intelligent cross connect
> > management within our data centers.
> >
> > Maybe this would work for you, and probably less complicated than a robot.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Pete
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > On 11/12/2014 09:21, "joel jaeggli" <joelja () bogus com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 12/10/14 4:33 PM, Phil Bedard wrote:
> > > > Curious what the use case is where a photonic or L1 switch wouldn't get
> > > > the job done?  
> > > >
> > > > With the robotic system you still need to wire everything up so it's
> > > > available to be xconnected.
> > >
> > > We've done electromechanical cross connect termination before on a very
> > > large scale.
> > >
> > > http://www.siemens.com/history/pool/newsarchiv/newsmeldungen/20110403_bild
> > > _3_fernsprechamt_muenchen-schwabing_458px.jpg
> > >
> > > those systems typically don't have the capacity to connect 100% of the
> > > edges at once.
> > >
> > > > FiberZone was another vendor who made robotic patch panels, but I'm not
> > > > sure they are around anymore.
> > > their website is still there, I've never seen an AFM live.
> > > > Interesting also Verizon has a patent on automated patch panels, but
> > > > using 
> > > > very specific mechanics.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.com/patents/US8175425
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Phil 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On 12/9/14, 11:51 PM, "Arnold Nipper" <arnold () nipper de> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Am 2014-12-10 00:36, schrieb Andrew Jones:
> > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.laser2000.de/out/media/glimmerglass_system_100%281%29.pdf
> > > > > Thank you, Andrew ... while Glimmerglass is really an exciting and
> > > > > excdellent system, these devices are exactly those photonic cross
> > > > > connects I'm _not_ looking for :9
> > > > >
> > > > > > > On 10.12.2014 10:21, Arnold Nipper wrote:
> > > > > > > I'm looking for a modular, cost-effective automatic / intelligent
> > > > > > > fibre
> > > > > > > optic patch panel.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not looking at these photonic x-connects, but really for
> > > > > > > something
> > > > > > > which does the patching instead of a technician.
> > > > >
> > > > > Arnold
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany
> > > > > email: arnold () nipper de      phone: +49 6224 5593407 2
> > > > > mobile: +49 172 2650958      fax:   +49 6224 5593407 9