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Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house


From: Ryan Pavely <paradox () nac net>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:53:58 -0500

http://bgr.com/2014/05/12/cablevision-optimum-modem-wifi-hotspots/

 I thought cablevision has been doing this for years.

 I had a higher level tech at mi casa within the last two years and he suggested their goal was to get enough coverage to start 
offering CV voip cell phones.  "pay a little less, for not guaranteed coverage'



  Ryan Pavely
   Net Access
   http://www.nac.net/

On 12/10/2014 9:35 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
Why am I not surprised?

Whose fault would it be if your comcast installed public wifi would be abused to download illegal material or launch a 
botnet, to name some random fun one could have on your behalf. :-/

(apologies if this was posted already, couldn't find an email about it on the list)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/12/10/disgruntled_customers_lob_sueball_at_comcast_over_public_wifi/

"A mother and daughter are suing Comcast claiming the cable giant's router in their home was offering public Wi-Fi 
without their permission.

Comcast-supplied routers broadcast an encrypted, private wireless network for people at home, plus a non-encrypted network called 
XfinityWiFi that can be used by nearby subscribers. So if you're passing by a fellow user's home, you can lock onto their 
public Wi-Fi, log in using your Comcast username and password, and use that home's bandwidth.

However, Toyer Grear, 39, and daughter Joycelyn Harris – who live together in Alameda County, California – say they 
never gave Comcast permission to run a public network from their home cable connection.

In a lawsuit [PDF] filed in the northern district of the golden state, the pair accuse the ISP of breaking the Computer 
Fraud and Abuse Act and two other laws.

Grear – a paralegal – and her daughter claim the Xfinity hotspot is an unauthorized intrusion into their private home, places a 
"vast" burden on electricity bills, opens them up to attacks by hackers, and "degrades" their bandwidth.

"Comcast does not, however, obtain the customer's authorization prior to engaging in this use of the customer's equipment 
and internet service for public, non-household use," the suit claims.

"Indeed, without obtaining its customers' authorization for this additional use of their equipment and resources, over which 
the customer has no control, Comcast has externalized the costs of its national Wi-Fi network onto its customers."

The plaintiffs are seeking monetary damages for themselves and on behalf of all Comcast customers nation-wide in their 
class-action case – the service was rolled out to 20 million customers this year."



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