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Re: Muni Fiber and Politics
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 16:30:11 -0700
Is it, or is it the norm because it is the result of a lack of facilities in those locations? Show me even one area where there is a rich fiber infrastructure available on an equal footing to multiple competitors to provide L3 services and there are no L3 providers offering service to those residential customers. I bet I can get a provider going there pretty quick. Owen
On Aug 2, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com> wrote: Happens all the time, which is why I asked Leo about that scenario. There are large swarths of the US and even more in Canada where that's the norm.On Aug 2, 2014 1:29 PM, "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com> wrote: Such a case is unlikely.On Aug 1, 2014, at 13:32, Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com> wrote:I can never see a case where letting them play at Layer 3 or above helps. That’s bad news, stay away. But I think some well crafted L2 services could actually _expand_ consumer choice. I mean running a dark fiber GigE to supply voice only makes no sense, but a 10M channel on a GPON serving a VoIP box may…Even in those cases where there isn't a layer 3 operator nor a chance for a viable resale of layer 1/2 services.
Current thread:
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics, (continued)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Corey Touchet (Aug 01)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Aug 01)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Leo Bicknell (Aug 01)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Scott Helms (Aug 01)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Leo Bicknell (Aug 01)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Aug 02)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Scott Helms (Aug 02)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Leo Bicknell (Aug 02)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Corey Touchet (Aug 02)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jima (Aug 05)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Aug 02)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Aug 02)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Herrin (Aug 04)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Aug 04)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Herrin (Aug 04)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Aug 04)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Miles Fidelman (Aug 04)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Aug 04)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Aug 04)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Leo Bicknell (Aug 06)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics John Osmon (Aug 06)