Re: iOS 7 update traffic

[joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>]

On 9/19/13 5:54 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote:
> Why do you sell services to customers using iThings if you are
> incapable of supporting them?  Are you sure that it is not you
> yourself who have used to much "bait and switch" selling a service
> you are unable to provide?  What actions do you take to discourage
> iThings on your network?

Not all business models are able sustain some kinds of demands.

Marketplaces aren't so elsatic that sudden changes in demand can be
immediately addressed.

Given enough time and incentive this addressed, at the margins however
you may get hosed anyway.

Physics is a stern taskmaster.

> > -----Original Message----- From: Warren Bailey
> > [mailto:wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com] Sent: Thursday, 19
> > September, 2013 16:29 To: Ryan Harden; Jeroen van Aart Cc:
> > <nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic
> >
> > Your software updates (you meaning a user of the Internet) should
> > not affect my experience. I'm not advocating we go back to 5.25
> > floppies and never look back. I'm asking..
> >
> > Is there a way for a COMPUTER and PHONE manufacturer to distribute
> > their software without destroying most last mile connectivity?
> >
> > Who else has had traffic surges like this? And who else has a Nanog
> > strike team coming in screaming buy more bandwidth? ;)
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Mobile Device.
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message -------- From: Ryan Harden
> > <hardenrm () uchicago edu> Date: 09/19/2013 3:04 PM (GMT-08:00) To:
> > Jeroen van Aart <jeroen () mompl net> Cc: "<nanog () nanog org>"
> > <nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen () mompl net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 09/19/2013 12:06 PM, Ryan Harden wrote:
> > > > As a side note, how are some of you not aware of this? This
> > > > has
> > happened with every single Apple OS update since the iPhone was
> > released in 2007.
> > > The difference is there are now a "couple" more million devices
> > > out
> > there than there were in 2007. And in 2007 there was just the one
> > phone, now you have tablets and what have you.
> >
> > The effect has been relatively the same regardless of how many
> > iDevices there are. Network Operators have seen spikes during Apple
> > OS releases since they started. The only leeway I'll give you is
> > that the original iPhone only supported 802.11b. With .11n and
> > someday .11ac, the ability for these devices to consume data at a
> > faster rate is also increasing.
> >
> > > > This isn't a new phenomenon. I realize some of you are too cool
> > > > for
> > Apple
> > > Lame low ball remark, however I thought it was the opposite,
> > Apple==coolness?
> >
> > This was in no way meant to be a lowball remark. But it doesn't
> > take much searching to find people exclaiming how they have zero
> > Apple devices or how they don't pay attention to Apple's "iJunk". I
> > assumed (probably mistakenly) that the lack of knowing this is
> > going to happen roughly 2-3 times a year was due to being 'too
> > cool' to keep up with the stuff Apple puts out.
> >
> > > Regards, Jeroen
> > >
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