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From: Gordon Cook <cook () cookreport com>
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:48:46 -0400
Really glad i posted  take a boqand thank you again!
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On Oct 4, 2013, at 3:50 PM, "Moore, Matthew S" <mscott.moore () verizon com> wrote:


Thanks eric...scott

From: Sieg, Eric W
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 3:14 PM
To: Christopher Morrow
Cc: Moore, Matthew S; Gordon Cook; Young, David E
Subject: RE: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

Everything is complete, all associated prefix-lists for this customer have been updated. 
 
Thank you for choosing Verizon,
 
Eric Sieg
IP Non Managed Operations Support | IP/DNS/DNE Administration
Tel: 248 728 5294 | Vnet: 443-5294
 
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From: christopher.morrow () gmail com [mailto:christopher.morrow () gmail com] On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:01 PM
To: Sieg, Eric W
Cc: Moore, Matthew S; Gordon Cook; Young, David E
Subject: Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?
 
 
 

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:
 
 

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Sieg, Eric W <eric.sieg () verizon com> wrote:
I’ll get it added to their other sites and follow up with them to let them know.  Give me about 20.
 
 
sweet, thanks!
 
forgot, from a fios customer perspective:
 2  G0-9-4-6.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.183.118)  10.434 ms  6.308 ms  3.699 ms
 3  ae6-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.199.146)  5.45 ms ae5-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.209.222)  
3.375 ms ae2-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.199.138)  4.592 ms
 4  0.ae4.XL2.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.8.125)  8.32 ms  3.457 ms  5.700 ms
 5  0.xe-9-3-0.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.34)  5.820 ms 0.xe-9-0-0.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.18)  7.311 ms 
0.xe-11-2-1.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.42.2)  6.568 ms
 6  telefonica-gw.customer.alter.net (152.179.50.114)  3.767 ms  4.74 ms  5.569 ms
 7  Te0-7-0-5-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.182)  48.345 ms  46.997 ms 
Xe4-1-6-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net(94.142.123.145)  46.154 ms
 8  176.52.251.197 (176.52.251.197)  44.747 ms 176.52.251.189 (176.52.251.189)  74.746 ms 176.52.249.241 
(176.52.249.241)  49.805 ms
 9  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  99.787 ms  98.471 ms  97.103 ms
^C
 
looks like it works now.
 
 
Thank you for choosing Verizon,
 
Eric Sieg
IP Non Managed Operations Support | IP/DNS/DNE Administration
Tel: 248 728 5294 | Vnet: 443-5294
 
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From: Moore, Matthew S 
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:43 PM
To: Christopher Morrow; Gordon Cook
Cc: Young, David E; Sieg, Eric W
Subject: RE: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?
 
Hi Chris,

 

Uncloaking..... ;-)

 

It does look as though it's a matter of an un-updated prefix-filter for telefonica.  The existing filter allows a 
bunch of /24's

close to the address in question but 200.10.150.0/24 is not among them, whereas telefonica is announcing it to us. 
(shown, hidden, below)

 

scottm@GW9.IAD8> show route receive-protocol bgp 152.179.50.114 hidden | match 200.10.150

  200.10.150.0/24         152.179.50.114       0                  12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 
27947 28027 I

 

I added the filter, and I'm cc'ng Eric in Customer Support to let him know.  It will make sense to update it across 
all 12956 sessions, as I only did this one… no longer hidden… 
 

 

scottm@GW9.IAD8> show route receive-protocol bgp 152.179.50.114 | match 200.10.150

* 200.10.150.0/24         152.179.50.114       0                  12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 12956 19169 
27947 28027 I

 

 

Regards...Scott

 

-----Original Message-----
From: christopher.morrow () gmail com [mailto:christopher.morrow () gmail com] On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:39 PM
To: Gordon Cook
Cc: Young, David E
Subject: Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

 

I always go with my standby: scott moore ... he can uncloak from bcc land if he's able/willing/etc to help in this 
case.

 

-chris

 

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Gordon Cook <cook () cookreport com> wrote:


again thank you very very much.  I have to leave routes huit for  root canal but i do expect to be back  can anyone 
nominate someone at verizon who would do to checking with telefonca?







david young is the only guy i know.







But question now is how to rattle a cage at verizon and possible



telefonica - I will also send word of this trouble shooting to the



folk in ecuador



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On Oct 4, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:







On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Gordon Cook <cook () cookreport com> wrote:



Hi chris







really appreciate the help from ALL you guys







sure thing.







does what you just said mean that non reachability for version customer  may mean a config problem for a small 
bloc and not something intentional??







that's probably hard to say... I do know that:







5  0.xe-9-2-0.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.30)  6.457 ms  6.821 ms



0.xe-11-2-1.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.42.2)  5.932 ms



6  telefonica-gw.customer.alter.net (152.179.50.114)  7.182 ms  5.433



ms  5.431 ms



7  Xe4-1-6-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.123.145)



47.271 ms  48.381 ms Te0-7-0-5-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net



(94.142.126.182)  50.290 ms











telefonica is a 'customer' not a 'peer' of 701, based on their



connectivity. This means that telefonica has to tell 701: "Yo, I need



you to accept routes for x, y, z, ktnxbi!'







knowing the normal (well, 5yrs ago) config for customers of 701, I



don't expect there'd be special handling of this prefix either... so



I suspect either no one told 701 to accept this, or telefonica



pouched it at the handoff :(







If they didn't do that, these routes wouldn't be accepted.



If telefonica botched some filter on their side (see the comment



about prepending).







It's fairly sure though that the prefix isn't 'blackholed'... since



it's everything in the /22 not just the local /32 or /24. Bill



Herrin's on target as well, it's really hard to say from here :)







-chris











On Oct 4, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:







err.. nothing in the /24 is reachable from 701's perspective (so it



seems)... so I'd suspect that there's a routing problem with the



/24, in fact the surrounding /24's also seem to be having the same problem.







On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Miles Fidelman



<mfidelman () meetinghouse net> wrote:



Also inaccessible from FIOS Boston:



new-host-2:~ mfidelman$ traceroute floksociety.org traceroute to



floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets



1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.534 ms  0.853 ms



0.724 ms



2  l100.bstnma-vfttp-84.verizon-gni.net (96.252.37.1)  7.619 ms



6.855 ms



7.304 ms



3  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  10.482 ms !N *^C







But just fine from our datacenter via xo.net.  And the web server



is up - at least to a text browser (Lynx).







Also via Verizion cell network (Boston area).







Some kind of routing table glitch or peering issue, perhaps?















William Herrin wrote:







On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Gordon Cook <cook () cookreport com> wrote:







traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72



byte packets



1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms



2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778



ms



17.508 ms  7.316 ms



3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119) 



6.482 ms !N *



4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119) 



7.101 ms !N



5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119) 



9.239 ms !N *



6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119) 



6.823 ms !N *  8.846 ms !N







Inaccessible via FIOS Washington DC too:







traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169 traceroute to 200.10.150.169



(200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets



1  L300.WASHDC-VFTTP-91.verizon-gni.net (173.73.47.1)  1.804 ms



1.595 ms  1.562 ms



2  G0-6-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.216.250)  5.321



ms !N



* *







Correctly accessible via Cox, Qwest, Sprint and others, but the



network path is really slow and really long.







The border is consistently with telefonica-wholesale.net and then



telconet.net. Beyond the border there are badly behaving routers,



including ones configured with RFC 1918 addresses. The



addressable routers are reachable via Verizon, just not the last hop.







traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169 traceroute to 200.10.150.169



(200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets



1  sark.dirtside.com (70.182.189.216)  0.708 ms  0.689 ms  0.569



ms



2  10.1.192.1 (10.1.192.1)  9.957 ms  9.874 ms  9.725 ms



3  ip68-100-3-49.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.49)  9.631 ms  9.507 ms 



9.424 ms



4  ip68-100-3-113.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.113)  9.310 ms  9.226



ms



9.140 ms



5  mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.net (68.100.0.145)  9.111 ms 



9.019 ms  8.929 ms



6  68.1.4.139 (68.1.4.139)  8.791 ms *  5.981 ms



7  209.48.42.61 (209.48.42.61)  5.748 ms  11.361 ms  10.948 ms



8  vb2000d2.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net (207.88.13.66)  58.454



ms



52.415 ms  52.421 ms



9  te-3-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net (207.88.12.9)  60.543 ms



60.397 ms  60.378 ms



10  te-3-0-0.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net (207.88.12.2)  58.211 ms 



58.407 ms  58.392 ms



11  * * *



12  206.111.5.226.ptr.us.xo.net (206.111.5.226)  53.378 ms 



49.080 ms



47.435 ms



13  Xe-8-1-0-0-grtmiabr3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net



(94.142.125.54)



76.006 ms Xe8-0-2-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net



(94.142.119.38)  60.181 ms



Xe13-1-4-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net



(213.140.43.109)



125.888 ms



14  Te-0-2-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net



(94.142.119.233)



67.105 ms Te0-1-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net



(213.140.37.77)  63.435 ms



Xe5-1-8-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.36.89)



141.873 ms



15  Xe9-3-0-0-gramiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net



(94.142.126.197)



62.450 ms 176.52.249.245 (176.52.249.245)  66.665 ms



176.52.249.241



(176.52.249.241)  64.668 ms



16  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  118.619 ms  118.057 ms 



117.934 ms



17  * * *



18  * * *



19  * * *



20  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  122.586 ms



120.967 ms  115.040 ms



21  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  122.801 ms



125.164 ms  119.520 ms



22  * * *



23  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  253.710 ms  246.684 ms 



244.845 ms































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