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Re: Automatic abuse reports
From: Sam Moats <sam () circlenet us>
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 05:51:12 -0500
There are good guys out there :-), and some are gorilla sized thats why I obfuscated the names in my response. No offense intended to the goood ones.
Sam Moats On 2013-11-13 05:48, Paul Bennett wrote:
I can't speak directly for them, as I'm not an official companyspokesperson, but this conversation has got my dander up enough that Ican't keep my big mouth shut. I know of at least one 500 pound gorilla (with zillions of retail customers, and their share of 500 pound gorillas as customers (and everything in between)) that has a working and effective abuse@address, one that can and does aggregate and pass on abuse complaints,and that can and does suspend service over failure to fix. On occasion, I understand even significant customers have been not just suspended but terminated over failure to follow the ToS/AUP. The company in question accepts abuse complaints in ARF, MARF, X-ARF and IODEF format, among others, and (I cannot emphasize this enough) does act on them.Anyone who suggests roundfiling abuse@ complaints is (IMNSHO) activelyworking to make the problem worse, not better. Anyone who thinks thatall networks do roundfile abuse@ complaints would seem to be making anover-generalization. Note, once again, that these are my opinions, and not my employers',so much so that I can't even tell you directly who my employer is. Notthat it's hard to find out, but I'm so very much not speaking in an official capacity here. -- Paul
Current thread:
- Re: Automatic abuse reports, (continued)
- Re: Automatic abuse reports Sam Moats (Nov 12)
- Re: Automatic abuse reports William Herrin (Nov 12)
- Re: Automatic abuse reports Brandon Galbraith (Nov 12)
- Re: Automatic abuse reports joel jaeggli (Nov 12)
- Re: Automatic abuse reports Sam Moats (Nov 13)
- Re: Automatic abuse reports Paul Bennett (Nov 13)
- Re: Automatic abuse reports Sam Moats (Nov 13)
- Re: Automatic abuse reports Jimmy Hess (Nov 13)
- Re: Automatic abuse reports Sam Moats (Nov 13)