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Re: Tier 2 ingress filtering


From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:05:57 -0400 (EDT)

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From: "Valdis Kletnieks" <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu>

On Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:16:48 -0000, bmanning () vacation karoshi com
said:

is there a clear understanding of "the edge" in the network operations
community? in a simpler world, it was not that difficult, but interconnect
has blossomed and grown all sorts of noodly appendages/extentions. I
fear that edge does not mean what you think it means anymore.

For 5 9's worth of eyeball networks hanging off consumer-grade ADSL and cable
connections, it's still the edge and still trivially filterable. If that's a
problem, the ISP can upsell a business-class connection that doesn't
filter. ;)

C'mon guys: the edge is where people who *source and sink* packets 
connect to people who *move* packets.  There may be some edges *inside*
carriers, but there is certainly an edge where carriers hook up customers.

And no, this should apply to business-grade connections as much as resi.

Cheers,
-- jra
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