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Re: using ARIN IP space outside of ARIN region


From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:23:33 +0000

On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Bill Woodcock <woody () pch net> wrote:

HOWEVER, we've been told in the past that space received from ARIN and used outside the ARIN region did not qualify 
as "utilization" for the purposes of justifying new allocations, nor were locations outside the ARIN region entitled 
to new allocations.  We were told to get space for POPs outside of ARIN's region from the other respective RIRs.  And 
indeed, those other RIRs have, by and large, been quite cooperative with giving us space for use within their 
regions, even in the cases when we had no business incorporated entity within their region.


Bill - 

You are correct, with respect to ARIN's handling of requests which
span regions:

  - If an organization requests resources for use outside of the 
    ARIN region, we would deny the request and refer them to the 
    appropriate RIR.

  - If an organization requests space for both in region and out 
    of region use, we will generally only allow them to obtain 
    the space for the portion of request that will be used in 
    the region, based on utilization of existing blocks in the
    region.

  - We will not count space issued by another RIR as justification 
    for an initial allocation request from ARIN.

Clearly, issuance of address space across regions is an issue which 
is becoming more interesting in recent years. We have noted this in
past Policy Experience Reports, and hope to discuss it more at the 
upcoming ARIN 31 meeting, so that the community can see if any policy 
changes are appropriate or would simplify processing of these requests.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN



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