Re: Time Warner Cable YouTube throttling

[Derek Ivey <derek () derekivey com>]

I just got home and tested with quite a few 1080p videos. No issues over 
my Hurricane Electric IPv6 tunnel. I did notice frequent stops to buffer 
on my FiOS IPv4 connection. I have a 50 Mbps down connection and don't 
even come close to maxing it when watching Youtube videos.

Here are a few traceroutes:

[2.1-BETA0][root@pfsense]/root(1): traceroute 
r19---sn-p5qlsm7d.c.youtube.com
traceroute to r19.sn-p5qlsm7d.c.youtube.com (208.117.251.184), 64 hops 
max, 40 byte packets
 1  L100.HRBGPA-VFTTP-12.verizon-gni.net (98.117.0.1)  1.222 ms 1.348 
ms  0.834 ms
 2  G10-0-8-112.HRBGPA-LCR-01.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.148) 2.839 
ms  2.589 ms  2.443 ms
 3  P12-0-0.HRBGPA-LCR-02.verizon-gni.net (130.81.27.185)  14.880 ms  
14.614 ms  14.698 ms
 4  so-12-1-0-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.28.254) 14.647 ms  
14.696 ms  14.552 ms
 5  0.xe-3-1-1.BR1.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.37.141)  15.027 ms 15.004 ms  
15.064 ms
 6  te9-2-0d0.cir1.ashburn-va.us.xo.net (206.111.0.201)  38.517 ms  
36.033 ms  34.816 ms
 7  216.156.8.189.ptr.us.xo.net (216.156.8.189)  31.958 ms  30.994 ms  
29.194 ms
 8  209.48.42.86 (209.48.42.86)  124.931 ms  126.117 ms  124.303 ms
 9  208.117.251.184 (208.117.251.184)  26.483 ms  27.792 ms 27.974 ms

[2.1-BETA0][root@pfsense]/root(2): traceroute 
r15---sn-p5qlsm76.c.youtube.com
traceroute to r15.sn-p5qlsm76.c.youtube.com (208.117.251.148), 64 hops 
max, 40 byte packets
 1  L100.HRBGPA-VFTTP-12.verizon-gni.net (98.117.0.1)  1.077 ms 0.863 
ms  0.968 ms
 2  G10-0-8-112.HRBGPA-LCR-01.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.148) 2.429 
ms  2.265 ms  2.456 ms
 3  P12-0-0.HRBGPA-LCR-02.verizon-gni.net (130.81.27.185)  14.788 ms  
14.666 ms  14.643 ms
 4  so-12-1-0-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.28.254) 14.591 ms  
14.479 ms  16.041 ms
 5  0.xe-10-0-0.BR2.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.165)  15.007 ms 15.109 
ms  14.975 ms
 6  144.232.8.209 (144.232.8.209)  187.038 ms  115.363 ms  117.669 ms
 7  sl-st31-ash-0-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.28.6)  116.263 ms
    sl-st31-ash-0-8-0-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.1.19)  116.491 ms
    sl-st31-ash-0-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.28.6)  116.934 ms
 8  sl-googl10-584821-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.205.34)  122.521 ms  
122.780 ms  121.535 ms
 9  208.117.251.148 (208.117.251.148)  33.669 ms  37.652 ms 38.478 ms

[2.1-BETA0][root@pfsense]/root(6): traceroute 
r10---sn-p5qlsm7l.c.youtube.com
traceroute to r10.sn-p5qlsm7l.c.youtube.com (208.117.251.47), 64 hops 
max, 40 byte packets
 1  L100.HRBGPA-VFTTP-12.verizon-gni.net (98.117.0.1)  1.159 ms 0.831 
ms  0.806 ms
 2  G9-0-4-212.HRBGPA-LCR-02.verizon-gni.net (130.81.139.126) 2.396 ms  
2.435 ms  2.167 ms
 3  so-12-1-0-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.28.254) 14.497 ms  
14.767 ms  14.695 ms
 4  0.xe-11-0-0.BR2.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.169)  15.001 ms 15.074 
ms  15.024 ms
 5  144.232.8.209 (144.232.8.209)  118.582 ms  116.717 ms  113.669 ms
 6  sl-st31-ash-0-4-0-3.sprintlink.net (144.232.3.169)  114.433 ms  
117.698 ms
    sl-st31-ash-0-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.28.6)  115.981 ms
 7  sl-googl10-584821-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.205.34)  123.912 ms  
124.402 ms  125.384 ms
 8  208.117.251.47 (208.117.251.47)  30.591 ms  30.676 ms  29.528 ms

Derek

On 3/6/2013 8:31 PM, Grant Ridder wrote:
> Can any one provide traceroutes to youtube to see if there is any 
> correlation between last mile providers?
>
> -Grant
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Derek Ivey <derek () derekivey com 
> <mailto:derek () derekivey com>> wrote:
>
>     I don't think it's just Time Warner. Definitely looks like XO. I have
>     Verizon FiOS and it was pretty bad for me as well (not sure if it
>     still is
>     since I'm not home right now). There's also atleast two threads in the
>     Verizon FiOS section on Broadband Reports:
>
>     http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28027601-Horrible-youtube-speeds
>     http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28071070-How-to-Reddit-YouTube-firewall-rule-with-MI424wr
>
>     Derek
>
>
>     On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Rick Coloccia
>     <coloccia () geneseo edu <mailto:coloccia () geneseo edu>> wrote:
>
>     > I'd like to help, too, I'm from a TWC business class site with
>     650 Mbps
>     > bandwidth and still regularly poor performance with YouTube.
>     >
>     > -Rick
>     >
>     > Sent from my iPhone 4S
>     >
>     > On Mar 6, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Christopher Morrow
>     <morrowc.lists () gmail com <mailto:morrowc.lists () gmail com>>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Randy Carpenter
>     <rcarpen () network1 net <mailto:rcarpen () network1 net>>
>     > wrote:
>     > >>
>     > >> ----- Original Message -----
>     > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Randy Carpenter
>     > >>> <rcarpen () network1 net <mailto:rcarpen () network1 net>> wrote:
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> We have recently been having some serious speed issues with
>     YouTube
>     > >>>> on our home connections, which are all Time Warner Cable.
>     > >>>> Some searching on forums and such revealed a work around:
>     > >>>>
>     > >>>> Block 206.111.0.0/16 <http://206.111.0.0/16> at the router.
>     > >>>
>     > >>> this was reported elsewhere... it seems odd, since that's XO
>     space,
>     > >>> not Google and not TWC space. Would you care to engage in some
>     > >>> troubleshooting to help everyone out? :)
>     > >>
>     > >> I'll be happy to help troubleshoot in any way I can.
>     > >
>     > > excellent.. I'll arrange my ducks, let's chat offlist?
>     > >
>     >
>     >