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Re: Google's QUIC
From: "Octavio Alvarez" <alvarezp () alvarezp ods org>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:12:24 -0700
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:20:21 -0700, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:
"Runs in top of UDP"... "Is not UDP"... If it has protocol set to 17 it is UDP.
So QUIC is an algorithm instead of a protocol?
SCTP is not NAT friendly (to the best of my knowledge), SHIM6 isIPv6-specific and can help you "recover" an already successful connection.LISP... I can't still grasp LISP, although it doesn't have anything to do with multihoming. :-)Lisp is actually very much about multihoming... In fact that was one of the key reasons it got started. It actually could make >multihoming and mobility very much simpler at the applications if it were used.
Yeah, but LISP is as [in]accessible to end-users as BGP is and it will be like that forever. It requires ISPs to opt-in to provide this. LISP is not a universal option. LISP matters to the Internet core, it doesn't matter to the whole Internet. It is just not universal.
ILNP is new for me. Looks interesting, thanks.Mind that ilnp is v6only also requires stack changes...
I just read about ILNP. ILNP is nice if you want to multihome nodes, but virtualization (or spanning, for that matter, similar to anycasting) over multiple data-centers will reach the limitations of ILNP. It is a step ahead, but it is not an integral approach. I wish my Debian mirror would just be the "mirror.debian.net" *service* (not host), and the network could choose the best for me. -- Octavio.
Current thread:
- Re: Google's QUIC, (continued)
- Re: Google's QUIC Josh Hoppes (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Michael Thomas (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Scott Whyte (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Tassos Chatzithomaoglou (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Michael Thomas (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Octavio Alvarez (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Christopher Morrow (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Octavio Alvarez (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Christopher Morrow (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Octavio Alvarez (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Christopher Morrow (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Octavio Alvarez (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Christopher Morrow (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC shawn wilson (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Michael Thomas (Jun 29)
- Re: Google's QUIC Grzegorz Janoszka (Jun 29)
- Re: Google's QUIC Darius Jahandarie (Jun 29)
- Re: Google's QUIC Saku Ytti (Jun 29)
- Re: Google's QUIC Tony Finch (Jun 29)
- Re: Google's QUIC Saku Ytti (Jun 30)
- Re: Google's QUIC Saku Ytti (Jun 30)
- Re: Google's QUIC Christopher Morrow (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Josh Hoppes (Jun 28)
- Re: Google's QUIC Jim Popovitch (Jun 28)