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Re: Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC)


From: Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal () dataix net>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:52:45 -0400

Wow I can't believe this is still going around.

All you apparently need for this is a .gov spook possessed by evil entity X and all these avians will come crashing 
right into their federal widows like a DDoS.

Scary head spinning fun ;-)

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On Jun 25, 2013, at 22:58, Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:


On Tue, 25 Jun 2013, Nick Khamis wrote:
We are however trying to conform to RFC standards as pointed out by
Jev. You guys really need to look at this. It's easily implementable:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149

That remind me I need to finish my April 1 submission to the RFC editor
for next year..... This has been sitting in my todo pile for several
years.


RFCxxxx for publication on April 1, xxxx

Assistance for Eavesdropping Legally on Avian Carriers (AELAC)

Abstract

The memo provides an overview and principles regarding Lawful Intercept(LI) of networks using RFC 1149, "A Standard 
for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers."  National requirements are not addressed.

Overview and Rational

Avian Carriers have not provided law enforcement with advanced capabilities to conduct covert surveillance of a 
subject's communications. When approached by law enforcement, Avian Carriers take flight leaving behind difficult to 
decode droppings of their activities. Identifying a specific packet stream within a large flock of carriers is 
difficult. Due to the 3D ether space available to carriers and their intrinsic collision avoidance systems, although 
sometimes poorly implemented with windows, performing full content communications interceptions can be hit or miss.

This memo does not address specific national requirements for eavesdropping. Nevertheless, it may be important to 
public safety that carriers never use any communication technology which could hinder law enforcement.s access to the 
communications of a subject of a lawful order authorizing surveillance.

Avian Carriers have a long and distinguished history in communications. For thousands of years they have been used to 
carry important messages to military and business leaders.  However, they have also been used for nefarious purposes 
ranging from possible financial market manipulation after Napoleo's defeat at Waterloo to reports of enemy pigeons 
operating in England during World War II.


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