Re: Network Vendor suggestions/reviews, Arista Networks, Dell Force10, Juniper, Extreme Networks etc...

[Erik Bais <ebais () a2b-internet com>]

Hi Blake,

Purple is the new Green. 

I would have a vote for Extreme Networks if you look for a high density, low latency, non blocking setup.
Their BD X8 could do 768 10G's per chassis (2304 ports per rack). Later this year the BD X8 will also do the new gen 
100G. 
Their switches are one of the fastest switches you can find for a datacenter setup, along with their TOR switch, the 48 
port 10G 1U switch, the X670/X670V. 

From a pricepoint in purchase but also in power consumption and management cost, Extreme Networks will be a clear 
winner. 

If you are looking for options like certain sw features, Extreme works like a charm in a MPLS/ VPLS setup, MLAGG, OSPF 
and v6. They also put a lot of effort in SW API's like perl /XML interfaces for automation, which makes it great to 
script against. 

Their CLI has a bit different structure vs Cisco IOS or the Juniper cli, but very easy to pickup. 

We do a lot with Extreme in our own ISP network, I would recommend them in any Cisco 6509 replacement project. 

Regards,
Erik Bais


Op 19 jun. 2013 om 01:53 heeft Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List <blake.mailinglist () pfankuch me> het volgende geschreven:

> Howdy,
>                I have been working on a proposal for the organization I work for to move into the 10gbit datacenter.  
> We have a small datacenter currently of about 1000 ports of 1gbit.  We have traditionally been a full Cisco shop, 
> however I was asked to do a price comparison as well as features with other major alternative vendors.  I was also 
> asked to do some digging as far as what "the real world" thinks about these possible vendors.
>
> We currently have 2 Cisco 6509's with 8 48 port cards Sup 3BXL, 2 Cisco 4506 with 5x 48 port card and Sup V's and 2 
> 4900M switches providing 10gbit to a very specialized implementation.  With all of our technology, we try to not be 
> bleeding edge, but oozing edge.  We need 5 9's or more of uptime yearly so stability is preferable to cool features.  
> We currently have single supervisors in all of our switches (not my decision) and it has bit us recently.  Everything 
> we are looking at needs to support NSF/SSO/VSS of some kind.
>
> What we have been looking to replace it with in Cisco world is Nexus 7004 Core and Nexus 5596UP with 2200 series 
> Fabric extenders for Dist/Access as well as 2200 Fabric Extenders within our Dell Blade Chassis.  Realistically we 
> will be under 800 ports of 10gbit (excluding Blades) which puts us in a tough spot from what I can find.  Currently 
> everything we have is EOR, however TOR would make more sense allowing us to switch to SFP+ twinax connectivity to 
> servers.
>
> With this in mind, I have a few questions...
>
> It was mandated that I look at a company "Arista Networks" and investigate possible options.  I had not heard much 
> about them, so I look to the experts.  Pro's and Con's?  Real world experience?  Looks to me they have a lot of cool 
> features, but I'm slightly concerned with how new they might be, how reliable it would be as well as their QA/bugfix 
> history.  Also 24x4 support and hardware replacement.  Everything in our datacenter currently has a 2 or 4 hour cisco 
> contract on it and critical core components have a cold spare in inventory.
>
> Dell Force 10... I know Dell tries to get you to drink the Koolaid on this solution, I was a former Dell Partner and 
> they even pushed me to get demo equipment going...  What's the experience with their chassis switches?  Stability?  
> Configuration sanity?  What do people like?  What do people hate?
>
> Juniper.  What do people like? What do people hate?  Have the Layer 2 issues of historical age gone away?  Is the 
> config still xml ish?  It has been about 5 years since I worked with anything Juniper.
>
> Extreme networks.  I know very little about them historically.  What is good, what is bad?  Is the config sane?
>
> I would be happy to compile any information I find, as well as our sanitized internal conclusions.  On and off list 
> responses welcome.
>
> If there is another vendor anyone would suggest, please add them to the list with similarly asked questions.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Blake