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Re: Gmail and SSL


From: George Herbert <george.herbert () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 19:38:21 -0800

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:31 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:10:55 -0800, George Herbert said:

Google is setting a higher bar here, which may be sufficient to deter
a lot of bots and script kiddies for the next few years, but it's not
enough against nation-state or serious professional level attacks.

To be fair though - if I was sitting on information of sufficient value that I
was a legitimate target for nation-state TLAs and similarly well funded
criminal organizations, I'd have to think long and hard whether I wanted to
vector my e-mails through Google. It isn't even the certificate management
issue - it's because if I was in fact the target of such attention, my threat
model had better well include "adversary attempts to use legal and extralegal
means to get at my data from within Google's infrastructure".

"Operation Aurora".

I probably fit into that description; while I vector my personal email
through Google, the actual sensitive stuff does not touch any wired or
wireless network.  Because I know.


-- 
-george william herbert
george.herbert () gmail com


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