Re: muni L1 example (WAS: Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?)

[John Osmon <josmon () rigozsaurus com>]

Scott -- you've brought up *great* info for this thread.  We all know
that city/county/state/federal governments sometimes throw money away on 
boondoggles (as fiber could become).  You've been able to pull from your
direct experience to show how this is true.


I threw in Idaho Falls because I'm betting it will help someone doing
research in the future.  Can you throw out some of the positive
examples you've run across?



On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 02:44:42PM -0500, Scott Helms wrote:
>    Absolutely muni networks can work.  I'm supporting ~14 right now with an
>    aggregate number of connections of around 40k (most are small).  Having
>    said that from my view (I work with telco's, cable MSOs, muni, and other
>    network providers) muni networks fail more often than private networks.
>     This is usually because they lack experience and their process is subject
>    to interference by interested parties.  In one case recently a muni
>    network had a full page ad taken out by a operator who didn't want the
>    city to build.  That ad in the local paper caused lots of controversy,
>    despite being largely inaccurate, and the controversy caused the city
>    council to change the rules for the city at the last minute.
>
>    On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:44 PM, John Osmon <[1]josmon () rigozsaurus com>
>    wrote:
>
>      On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 09:04:43AM -0800, Leo Bicknell wrote:
>      [...]
>      > People are doing this, and it does work, it's just being done in
>      > locations the big telcos and cablecos have written off...
>
>      To re-iterate this point, and get a note into the archives -- Muni
>      networks *can* work.
>
>      Idaho Falls, ID has been offering dark fiber strands to anyone since
>      2007 or so:
>          [2]http://www.ifcirca.net/
>
>      When I last had network in the area, the cost was on the order of:
>         - $1500/month/loop
>         - $20/bldg on loop
>         - one-time construction costs
>
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