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Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches
From: shawn wilson <ag4ve.us () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 08:28:03 -0500
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Ray Soucy <rps () maine edu> wrote:
This whole backdoor business is a very, very, dangerous game.
While I agree with this (and the issues brought up with NSA's NIST approved PRNG that RSA used). If I were in their shoes, I would have been collecting every bit of data I could (ie, I can't fault them on PRISM and have some serious issues with most of these disclosures). I don't believe that anyone has said "this isn't a big deal". I think even the NSA has said the exact opposite (for different reasons). I have no oppinion at this point of whether they put a back door in routers - I think it's possible. Maybe even with multiple moving parts (submit some HDL to a manufacturer for their own project and allow them to use it for others under an NDA, knowing that the chip could be used in hardware and knowing that something would hit that part of the chip) and no one on either end has to know a back door has been inserted. It's also possible that ANT stuff is propaganda (though the ideas in there are pretty cool and should be implemented under open source).
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- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches, (continued)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Randy Bush (Dec 30)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Dobbins, Roland (Dec 30)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Sabri Berisha (Dec 30)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches [AP] NANOG (Dec 30)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Dobbins, Roland (Dec 30)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches [AP] NANOG (Dec 30)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Blair Trosper (Dec 30)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Jimmy Hess (Dec 30)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Blair Trosper (Dec 30)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Ray Soucy (Dec 31)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches shawn wilson (Dec 31)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches sthaug (Dec 31)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Saku Ytti (Dec 31)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Leo Bicknell (Dec 31)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches nanog () mitteilung com (Dec 31)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Saku Ytti (Dec 31)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Saku Ytti (Dec 31)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Jared Mauch (Dec 31)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Enno Rey (Dec 31)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Jared Mauch (Dec 31)
- Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches Saku Ytti (Dec 31)