Re: The Making of a Router

[Warren Bailey <wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com>]

At the very least, could we fight about something worthwhile? I¹m all for
a good fight, and I¹m the first one to trigger the nuclear explosion.. But
the subject matter of this peepee competition is tiring. I query the nanog
gods frequently, sometimes you get useful feedback and sometimes you get a
bunch of haters trying to piss on your parade. There is probably some
validity on both sides, but a Friday night email fight should be reserved
for those email blacklist douchebags.. Arguing over DIY routers being
shittier than radical COTS equipment can be done off list. It¹s supposed
to be Christmas.. Have a coke and a smile and STFU if you aren¹t going to
add some value.

I can¹t wait for this thread to fan back up on Monday morning when the
normal(er) people read this.

The first rule of fight club is.. You don¹t talk about fight club.

On 12/27/13, 8:58 PM, "Shawn Wilson" <ag4ve.us () gmail com> wrote:

> This has gotten a bit ridiculous.
>
> I was hoping someone could give technical insight into why this is good
> or not and not just "buy a box branded as a router because I said so or
> your business will fail". I'm all for hearing about the business theory
> of running an ISP (not my background or day job) but didn't think that's
> what the OP was asking about (and it didn't seem they were taking
> business suggestions very well anyway).
>
> This thread started cool and about 10 posts in, started sucking.
>
> Warren Bailey <wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com> wrote:
> > I propose cage fighting at the next NANOG summit.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Mobile Device.
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Randy Bush <randy () psg com>
> > Date: 12/27/2013 7:07 PM (GMT-09:00)
> > To: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
> > Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog () nanog org>
> > Subject: Re: The Making of a Router
> >
> >
> > > Right.  And the point that others are trying to make clear is that if
> > > that $100K is half your capitalization, you have $200K - and that's
> > > nowhere near enought to cover all the stuff you're going to hit
> > > starting an ISP.  (Hint - what's your projected burn rate for the
> > > first two months of business?)
> >
> > not to worry.  growth is not going to be an issue doing openflow due to
> > today's tcam limits.