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Re: Someone’s Been Siphoning Data Through a Huge Security Hole in the Internet
From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 13:18:52 -0500 (EST)
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From: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
MPLS != Encryption. MPLS VPN = "Stick a label before the still unencrypted IP packet".great, now how do I get a private link?MPLS doesn't secure your data, you are responsible for keeping it secure on the wire.but, but,but! they told me it was private!
As someone -- I think it might have been you, Chris :-) -- pointed out to me about 6 months ago when I scoffed at SCADA networks that weren't properly air-gapped, you can't even trust a "private T-1" -- how do you know that an attacker hasn't put a mid-span DACS in monitor mode? Unless you have copper conductivity from end to end, and pressurized conduit with monitors, you can't bet on anything. Cheers, -- jra -- Make Election Day a federal holiday: http://wh.gov/lBm94 100k sigs by 12/14 Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra () baylink com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
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- Re: Someone’s Been Siphoning Data Through a Huge Security Hole in the Internet Eugeniu Patrascu (Dec 06)
- Re: Someone’s Been Siphoning Data Through a Huge Security Hole in the Internet Merike Kaeo (Dec 08)
- Re: Someone’s Been Siphoning Data Through a Huge Security Hole in the Internet Jay Ashworth (Dec 08)
- Re: Someone’s Been Siphoning Data Through a Huge Security Hole in the Internet Eugeniu Patrascu (Dec 08)
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- Re: Someone’s Been Siphoning Data Through a Huge Security Hole in the Internet Stephane Bortzmeyer (Dec 06)
- Re: Someone’s Been Siphoning Data Through a Huge Security Hole in the Internet Jared Mauch (Dec 07)