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Re: Netscout experiences


From: tOoLb0x <toolb0x.security () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:24:48 -0700

On Aug 19, 2013, at 13:24, Blake Dunlap <ikiris () gmail com> wrote:

Greetings,
   Anyone out there have experiences with Netscout or any of their
nGenius products and wish to share impressions? Currently looking at them
in comparison to say Netbrain, NetQoS, smarts, etc.

-Blake


We've been using Netscout's nGenius for years. Their Gig probes and Infinistream probes are rather expensive but the 
resulting application visibility justifies the cost.  We have basically built up our network visibility over time 
starting with a PM server and a single probe, used as a netflow collector, then gradually superseding netflow with 
dedicated Netscout probes.  We used fiber and copper taps instead of SPAN ports since we believe SPAN ports are better 
used tactically. Take that instrumentation cost into consideration.  

To be fair, we haven't evaluated the other apps that you have mentioned, as of late.  We do have a Concord eHealth 
implementation which we use for historic SNMP network statistics.  It's good for showing us WHEN and WHERE we have a 
bandwidth spike but it doesn't answer the WHO and WHAT questions like nGenius does.  We use the Inifnistream probes 
strategically as a "network TiVo" which allows us to grab the packets we need for retrospective performance or forensic 
analysis. All of the Gig probes can do packet capture but they're limited.  The Infinistreams are basically deployed at 
our core and network perimeter.  Our Gig probes are more ubiquitous at the datacenter and distribution sites.  Our 
basic philosophy of use is to monitor all the data center switches and any network choke points, especially ingress 
(ISP, extranet, VPN, dedicated circuits, etc).  We also have a couple of portables that we use for our more on-going 
issues.  

We do have a few of the 10G probes but we coupled that with a Gigamon deployment since it was too cost prohibitive to 
purchase multiple 10G tool/interfaces everywhere in our data centers.  Gigamon allows us to leverage many of our 
existing tools but that may not be germane to the conversation.  

-bb

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