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Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:52:01 -0700
Other AC members and I are in the process of crafting a proposal to address this issue. Please stay tuned. I hope to have something ready to post to PPML in the next few weeks. Owen On Apr 29, 2013, at 12:19 PM, John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote:
On Apr 29, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Lee Howard <lee () asgard org> wrote:On 4/29/13 1:03 AM, "Jérôme Nicolle" <jerome () ceriz fr> wrote:It is necessary to keep an acceptable churn and still allocate small blocks to newcomers, merely to deploy CGNs. Not doing so would end up in courts for entry barrier enforced by a monopoly (the RIRs).There is a /10 reserved to facilitate IPv6 deployment: https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four10 "Reclamation" is facilitated by offering a financial benefit, i.e., selling underused addresses.Note that under the "slow start" IPv4 address allocation policies, small ISPs do not qualify for an initial allocation from ARIN until they have utilized a provider-assigned block of the minimum size specified (based on being singly-homed or multi-homed.) These same criteria now apply to receipt of an address block via transfer, so at regional IPv4 free pool depletion may be _very_ difficult to satisfy. There are a number of ways of addressing this (changing initial ISP allocation policy, changing dependence on allocation policies for transfer approvals, establishing a reserved block for new entrants, etc.) but if left unaddressed will leave circumstances such that new entrants are precluded from participating in the transfer market as a recipient. This is the type of outcome that is generally frowned upon by governments for obvious reasons, and should be very carefully considered by the community. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN
Current thread:
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM, (continued)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Tore Anderson (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Andrew Latham (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Andrew Latham (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Christopher Morrow (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM John Curran (Apr 26)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Andrew Latham (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Jérôme Nicolle (Apr 28)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Jimmy Hess (Apr 28)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Lee Howard (Apr 29)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM John Curran (Apr 29)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Owen DeLong (Apr 29)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Jimmy Hess (Apr 29)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM John Curran (Apr 30)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Mikael Abrahamsson (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Daniel Roesen (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Geoff Huston (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Chris Grundemann (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Tore Anderson (Apr 24)