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Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8
From: John Osmon <josmon () rigozsaurus com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 07:24:16 -0600
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:07:33AM -0500, Jimmy Hess wrote:
Assume you have a public IPv4 assignment, and someone else starts routing your assignment... "legitimately" or not, RIR allocation transferred to them, or not. There might be a record created in a database, and/or internet routing tables regarding someone else using the same range for a connected network. But your unconnected network, is unaffected.
Ahh... But the network may not be unconnected. Just because *you* don't have a path to it doesn't mean others are similarly disconnected. All of those "others" would be affected.
You are going to have a hard time getting a court to take your case, if the loss/damages to your operation are $0, because your network is unconnected, and its operation is not impaired by someone else's use, and the address ranges' appearance in the global tables.
Think about a company that has thousands of private interconnects with other companies. Unique address space would remove the chance of RFC1918 space clash, and any of the bad effects of NAT. (e.g The network *works* as it was originally designed.) Such a network would not have $0 in loss/damage when the partners can't reach it due to a rogue announcement. The Internet is not the same from all viewpoints.
Current thread:
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8, (continued)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Matthew Kaufman (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Mike Hale (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Matthew Kaufman (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Jo Rhett (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Mark Andrews (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Mike Hale (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Mark Andrews (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Jo Rhett (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Jimmy Hess (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 John Osmon (Sep 19)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Cutler James R (Sep 19)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Jimmy Hess (Sep 19)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Tim Franklin (Sep 19)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 John Curran (Sep 20)
- RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...) Jeroen Massar (Sep 20)
- Re: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...) John Curran (Sep 20)
- RE: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...) Naslund, Steve (Sep 20)
- RE: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...) Schiller, Heather A (Sep 20)
- Re: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...) Cutler James R (Sep 20)
- RE: RIRs give out unique addresses (Was: something has a /8! ...) Naslund, Steve (Sep 20)